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Old December 1st, 2014, 07:58 PM   #11
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Seriously? I was recently diagnosed vit D deficient but the doc never said anything about cancer, he just said it could impair cognitive function, loss of concentration etc. I must check this out, thanks for the tip-off.
dont panic. the cancer link is not well established, might well turn out to be non existent. and dont panic about your vitamin D level anyway, the tests are not accurate, its impossible to actually interpret them because the reference range isnt known, its a guess. if you are really worried get a bone density scan done.
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Old May 27th, 2015, 05:11 PM   #12
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What makes you thinks cancer is caused by genes? I havent read any peer reviewed studies which say that?
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What makes you thinks cancer is caused by genes? I havent read any peer reviewed studies which say that?
Then you haven't read much. There is a genetic component to several cancers. Breast cancer being the most well known.
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Then you haven't read much. There is a genetic component to several cancers. Breast cancer being the most well known.
Are you saying the genes cause cancer, or that the genes can predispose people to cancer? I dont get what your stance is.
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Are you saying the genes cause cancer, or that the genes can predispose people to cancer? I dont get what your stance is.
The stance that most people who have actually read anything other than tabloid crap about cancer take.
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Number one cause of cancer... AGE.
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Number one cause of cancer... AGE.
Very true.
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The stance that most people who have actually read anything other than tabloid crap about cancer take.
Of course cancer has a genetic component, but, the genes can either be turned off or on. Why? is a big question.

And then, emotional patterns are passed from one generation to the next ones. Hypertension's genetic component might be coincidental, or again, the emotional patterns may play a role in whether genes are on or off.
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Not an oncologist or an expert on the issue.

My father has or had throat cancer since around 2000. He never smoked a cigarette in his life and hated cigarettes with a passion. He almost never drank. As in almost never, he would literally drink ONE BEER about once a month grilling steaks. He was not overweight, did not go to bars, and he got this cancer. As a matter of fact, the doctors asked him how much he smoked, and was surprised at the answer.

He did (and I guess does now) work on motors and projects and always has. Actually when I smell gasoline or solvents I think of him, because that is what he smelled like. Personally, I think it is from decades of breathing this crap that he got the throat cancer.

In my mind, some people get cancer from their lifestyle, smoking and drinking too much, inhalation of chemicals. Being out in the sun too much, other environmental factors. People also get cancer probably as a process of age and the body breaking down. Then there are the poor people who by chance, get cancer. On the opposite, there are many people who smoke their asses off and live in their 90s. A good example is the late leader of China, Deng Xiaoping. Deng (too lazy to look) lived to be like 95 years old, smoking packs after packs of Chinese cigarettes. But he was also a little guy, probably ate a mostly vegetarian and rice diet. Again, who knows. I think however, that people get cancer either through environment or the luck of the draw.
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Not an oncologist or an expert on the issue.

My father has or had throat cancer since around 2000. He never smoked a cigarette in his life and hated cigarettes with a passion. He almost never drank. As in almost never, he would literally drink ONE BEER about once a month grilling steaks. He was not overweight, did not go to bars, and he got this cancer. As a matter of fact, the doctors asked him how much he smoked, and was surprised at the answer.

He did (and I guess does now) work on motors and projects and always has. Actually when I smell gasoline or solvents I think of him, because that is what he smelled like. Personally, I think it is from decades of breathing this crap that he got the throat cancer.

In my mind, some people get cancer from their lifestyle, smoking and drinking too much, inhalation of chemicals. Being out in the sun too much, other environmental factors. People also get cancer probably as a process of age and the body breaking down. Then there are the poor people who by chance, get cancer. On the opposite, there are many people who smoke their asses off and live in their 90s. A good example is the late leader of China, Deng Xiaoping. Deng (too lazy to look) lived to be like 95 years old, smoking packs after packs of Chinese cigarettes. But he was also a little guy, probably ate a mostly vegetarian and rice diet. Again, who knows. I think however, that people get cancer either through environment or the luck of the draw.
Another one of the many things that make this disease so difficult is that with very few exceptions, getting a firm handle on a cause is impossible. It is mostly probabilities. If you smoke, the probability of getting throat/mouth/lung cancer increases, and the probability increases with amount smoked. Smoking doesn't mean you will get these cancers and not smoking doesn't mean you won't.

Then there is a genetic component that affects the probabilities, but again isn't a yes/no determinant.

And there are environmental factors with the same type of probability spread.

That a virus causes feline leukemia is one of the few knowns, and that can be prevented. Even the HPV virus which seems to sometimes cause cancer is not 100% effective, if that is the term.
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