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Old October 7th, 2015, 07:29 PM   #31
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I believe this discussion is a matter of semantics. It is a matter of how one defines "disease". If we limit the definition to conditions caused by bacteria and viruses then no, addiction isn't. But if we include "conditions" or "syndromes" then yes it is. I think that is what the difference is here.

I'm more interested in trying to define where and when a casual enjoyment of your favorite poison goes from being an indulgence to being an addiction.

For example, there are many so called functioning alcoholics, people who get to work every day, sober and competent, perform their duties, go home or to the bar, get pissed, sleep, get to work, rinse and repeat again and again. Is that an extreme indulgence or an addiction?

IMO it is when it starts to interfere negatively on you day to day operations. Your friends, family work whatever. When I was younger and in a restaurant 50-60 hours a week drugs and booze were common place. That doesn't translate to a 9-5 suit job and when I tried it was obvious that it didn't even though mad men was all the rage. I had to adapt but my body wasn't extremely happy w/ the choice. I was a wreck for a bit. It takes time for the cells to regenerate. I have a tendency to take things to the extreme no matter what it is, so none of this was a surprise for me. With other it's just a passing thing, I guess it's just how bad you need to silence the screaming in your head.
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Yes, which brings up another conundrum. That is a classic case of addiction, but given that it (arguably) results in a net benefit to the individual and society, does that mean that not all addictions are harmful?

Mrs. RNG is on tranks. And I assure you both her and my quality of life have improved significantly. Mind you her doctor is very conservative about their use.
A world of difference exists between taking drugs to be normal and taking drugs to be high.

Society almost universally approves of addictions to be normal, and almost universally disapproves of addictions to get high.
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Old October 8th, 2015, 09:36 AM   #33
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A world of difference exists between taking drugs to be normal and taking drugs to be high.

Society almost universally approves of addictions to be normal, and almost universally disapproves of addictions to get high.
I'm not so sure you are correct when you say society disapproves. It is very much the protestant christian ethic types and those bullied into pretending to approve it that are the gloomy-gusses.
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Drug are good for them who like even alcohol who I am like very good.

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Alcohol is the best drug in world. Awsome be drunken.
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