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Old March 7th, 2016, 03:53 PM   #11
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I don't have a link but many years ago a medical study was done expressly to find a link between pot smoking and lung cancer but no link was found. People keep trying to demonize pot but to no avail. I have smoked pot since 1973 after coming back from Vietnam. I never called in sick to work. I advanced up the ladder quickly on every job I held. I never beat my wife or children.
It is possible that the lack of a link has to do with cannabis' anti-cancer properties.

Wouldn't that be a hell of an irony....?
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It is possible that the lack of a link has to do with cannabis' anti-cancer properties.

Wouldn't that be a hell of an irony....?
It may help prevent heart disease and diabetes to boot. Pass me the peace pipe.
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Nope, the claims are not utter bullshit and squares like ex are a lost cause. They'll have to pass on in good time....

Cannabis anti-cancer properties have been suspected since the 70s, and who knows? If all the holier-than-thous hadn't been screaming reefer madness for all these years, cannabis-based cancer therapy might today be a common practice.

You see, it is is a wonder plant, and that makes all the claims of it being the Devil's weed "utter bullshit."
Its probably no more a wonder plant than poppy or coca. The strains that are useful for manufacturing are not what you get high with. Until it becomes legal, there will be no meaningful studies of what its medicinal purpose is. I think its a step backwards on the road of legalization to be propping up weed with unproven and often unrealistic propaganda. Just keep it simple. I want to sit on my pond bank, catch catfish, smoke a bowl and mind my own business. Why should I go to jail for that? Their is only one disagreeing answer to that statement. Its illegal that is why. When you start throwing if all these other what ifs, and it can do this and its that, then you start opening it up for conjecture and argument. Its the law. That is a weak argument. There is great majority that says its not hurting anyone so legalize it. Keep it simple. Get it legalized, then experiment around to see how wonderful it is medicinally speaking
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Its probably no more a wonder plant than poppy or coca. The strains that are useful for manufacturing are not what you get high with. Until it becomes legal, there will be no meaningful studies of what its medicinal purpose is. I think its a step backwards on the road of legalization to be propping up weed with unproven and often unrealistic propaganda. Just keep it simple. I want to sit on my pond bank, catch catfish, smoke a bowl and mind my own business. Why should I go to jail for that? Their is only one disagreeing answer to that statement. Its illegal that is why. When you start throwing if all these other what ifs, and it can do this and its that, then you start opening it up for conjecture and argument. Its the law. That is a weak argument. There is great majority that says its not hurting anyone so legalize it. Keep it simple. Get it legalized, then experiment around to see how wonderful it is medicinally speaking
You are way off base. The proof is in the pudding. I saw Reefer Madness the first time in a cheap San Diego movie theater in '68. I played the piano back then and a person went crazy playing the piano after smoking a joint in Reefer Madness. After smoking my first joint many years later, I could play Moonlight Sonata I think as Beethoven played it, soft to the touch.
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I see that the scientific evidence posted earlier gets one called a "square". But the facts seems to show quite strongly that regular users have restricted airways and that leads to asthma like symptoms in some users. Plus the other evidence that I posted earlier on this thread as well regarding the pulmonary system.

I have stated any number of times on DTT that decriminalization of all drugs is the best route. Duh.

But potheads will defend marijuana as not only benign but the greatest thing ever till they die, and ignore all science that shows there are indeed side effects. And one study that I posted a week or so ago showed deaths from cardiac failure from marijuana use.

Then we have losers like Camelot who has stated that he does not use the stuff, but has opined any number of times that he wishes he did, etc. Now that is a fraud and a loser.


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I'll post this again, as it is obvious all the "experts" on DTT did not read this. Maybe they'll do so now?

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Interestingly, however, there was a modest but statistically significant increase in airway resistance and reduction in specific airway conductance in smokers of marijuana compared with both nonsmokers and tobacco smokers.
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This all suggests that hyperinflation may be one of the primary physiological abnormalities in marijuana smokers. The increased airway resistance and reduced conductance is consistent with mucosal edema and inflammation, which has been observed in the large airways of marijuana smokers.
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In addition to variable changes in lung function, there have been numerous case reports of an association between marijuana smoking and bullous lung disease in relatively young subjects. Commonly, these bullae are located apically and appear to be associated with normal lung function in some cases, though severe impairment has also been noted. Subjects were mainly aged 20–45 years, although one subject was 19 years of age, and another was 55. Unfortunately, it is difficult to separate marijuana use from tobacco smoking which does confound these reports. Nevertheless, there appears to be an association between bullous disease and marijuana use in a subset of patients. Aldington et al. also found evidence of reduced lung density on high-resolution CT (HRCT) scanning in marijuana smokers, although in this case without macroscopic emphysema. It is possible that these changes are in part responsible for the common presentation of spontaneous pneumothoraces in marijuana smokers, although pneumothoraces are not at all uncommon in young, healthy nonsmokers. It has also been suggested that barotraumas associated with large pulmonary pressure swings seen with breath holding and deep inspiration may contribute to the risk of pneumothoraces.
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Its probably no more a wonder plant than poppy or coca. The strains that are useful for manufacturing are not what you get high with. Until it becomes legal, there will be no meaningful studies of what its medicinal purpose is. I think its a step backwards on the road of legalization to be propping up weed with unproven and often unrealistic propaganda. Just keep it simple. I want to sit on my pond bank, catch catfish, smoke a bowl and mind my own business. Why should I go to jail for that? Their is only one disagreeing answer to that statement. Its illegal that is why. When you start throwing if all these other what ifs, and it can do this and its that, then you start opening it up for conjecture and argument. Its the law. That is a weak argument. There is great majority that says its not hurting anyone so legalize it. Keep it simple. Get it legalized, then experiment around to see how wonderful it is medicinally speaking


Well, look, we already did all that in Colorado, and we made the right to consume cannabis a constitutionally protected right.

Other states are going for it.
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Cannabis Compares Favorably To Conventional PTSD Treatments

Lot cheaper, I'm sure....
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Smoking pot puts me outside of the box where I think clearly. However, don't smoke pot and drive.
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Smoking pot puts me outside of the box where I think clearly. However, don't smoke pot and drive.
Why?
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