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Old October 30th, 2017, 04:25 PM   #21
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Crack was portrayed as the most addictive drug available in the 80's and that was the excuse for harsher sentencing compared to powdered cocaine. I'm sure the fact that rock was being delivered to black neighborhoods, while powder was the drug of choice for the rich had nothing to do with it!


And the addictive powers of opioids are likely bullshit too! All drugs are addictive when people are stressed out by debt, job-loss and worries about medical issues. Addiction rates of returning Nam Vets dropped from 50% to below average US rates as soon as the soldiers were out and on their way back home.


Big Pharma is behind opioid trafficking and they've already paid their hired political reps to stuff legislation to limit opioid prescription by doctors....so, enjoy as you spiral down into oblivion! And you haven't "come leaps and bounds on the drug wars!" It's still a CIA/FBI-racket used to subjugate the poorest and darkest, while giving free passes to richer and whiter!


The withdrawal from opioids is not bullshit. It is very serious but withdrawals from booze is as serious if not more so.


I am not sure what you mean by the "addictive powers"
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Old October 31st, 2017, 04:16 AM   #22
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I'm laughing my ass of over the fact that you still don't see the irony of this statement
It is not mine or any one else fault that black communities are in disarray. To many unwed mothers, to many fathers not being responsible for their babies.
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You people will be the ruination of this great country, everything is about the poor victim black people, race this, race that. Do me a favor dig yourselves out of the gutter, stand up, and better your communities.
Are you claiming the justice system is in NO WAY, FORM, OR FASHION unfair or unbiased ??? Are you claiming the poor DON'T go to jail far more often and for longer terms than the more affluent ?? Are you saying no black man anywhere in America has ever been stopped for driving while black ??

GO to the back woods counties of Kentucky and West Virginia where the opioid epidemic is absolutely raging and talk to all those POOR WHITE PEOPLE who are having their lives destroyed first by the drugs then by the justice system.

It's not entirely about race.

The simple fact remains, if you are even slightly affluent, meaning you can afford a half way decent lawyer, the chances of you going to prison DROP DRAMTICALLY. Especially on a first offense.

Somebody ran an ad a few years ago. It stated that 40% of all drug users lived in the inner city. It then panned back showing a quiet upper middle class suburban neighborhood, and two white teen age boys sitting on a curb smoking pot. And asked the question, where does the other 60% live ??

Drugs are an epidemic across all socio-economic layers. Yet the truth is, only now are we really noticing that it's an epidemic because middle and upper middle class people are DYING of over doses.
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Old October 31st, 2017, 07:33 AM   #24
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It is not mine or any one else fault that black communities are in disarray. To many unwed mothers, to many fathers not being responsible for their babies.
Make up your minds boys, is the black urban community in the situation it finds itself in due to the EVIL democrats keeping them on "the modern plantation" OR is it the fault of no one other than the black community itself?
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Old October 31st, 2017, 07:56 AM   #25
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Crack is not physically addictive. People do not overdose as easily from crack. The crack epidemic of the 80s and 90s is much the same as meth is today.
Have you ever done crack? Do you know someone who has? Do you even know what crack is?
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The opioid problem is much different. One. The drs. Amd big pharma have created a great number of these addicts. On their own they are much easier to OD on by add in the synthetics that much of it is being cut w/ people are dying over it all of the time.

It is still being brought in by the CIA and being run by the same gangs, causing the same violence that the cocaine and crack were. I don't understand why this meme about the racist crack wars vs the sympathetic opium epidemic is being pushed. We as a society have come leaps and bounds on the drug wars since then. In the 80s and 90s you could go to prison for a few hundred grams of weed now it is legal in some states.
I don't think that there was ever any vested interest in having compassion for drug addicts of any flavor. Acid casualties were, and are, derided as lunatics and schizophrenics instead of truly helping what went wrong with them. I don't think that treating the crack epidemic was ever the option. I don't think anyone wanted to fix it, and I still don't think that anyone wants to fix the current issues that are facing not only the inner cities but the suburbs and the rural areas.

There's reasons why these people are turning to these drugs and they need to be addressed. I think that there is a hole in society, a gap left by materialism and the endless pursuit of a dream that is long dead, which cannot be filled properly. People just don't have a meaning to live, and I think once people have this realization, they turn to something that numbs those thoughts, or perhaps gives some sort of meaning to them.
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Make up your minds boys, is the black urban community in the situation it finds itself in due to the EVIL democrats keeping them on "the modern plantation" OR is it the fault of no one other than the black community itself?
Both!
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But White kids getting high on heroin is because of "pill mills."

Thanks for proving my point dumbasses.
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But White kids getting high on heroin is because of "pill mills."

Thanks for proving my point dumbasses.
Never specified either way thanks!
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Never specified either way thanks!
I've specified it enough. You've just spent the entire thread deflecting. I mean, you just said it yourself:

Black folks = "single mothers" and "personal responsibility"

White folks = "pill mills" and "big pharma"

It's a joke, a travesty. It's also why I, quite frankly, have no sympathy.

There's no way you aren't aware of this so I'm just going to assume you're being willfully stupid and therefore devoid of any reason. You tend to not provide any quality posts either, so I'm just going to put you on ignore.

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Old October 31st, 2017, 10:25 AM   #30
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I don't really see how this affects the perception of this issue. Heroin has always operated in this manner (i.e. Vietnam vets who get treated with morphine, only to come home hooked on heroin).

The fact of the matter is that nobody cared until it started affecting White communities. Which is why ppl like Sensible can't see the irony of saying "Black ppl need to help themselves" but turn around and say the heroin epidemic is a "national crisis" because the faces we see on TV are White.
Do they care that much about what affects white communities? Drugs have been allowed to reach epidemic proportions in Appalachia and not only is nothing being done about it, but as I mentioned before ...we just had a completely ignored story of bipartisanship in Congress, as Dems and Repubs voted to reject laws restriction Big Pharma's right to traffick opioid drugs to whoever they choose to. And two thirds of the soldiers sent to fight in Vietnam at the height of the War were white, and yet..as we learned many, many years later, the CIA was managing the local drug trafficking pipeline throughout Indochina and even allowing their South Vietnamese leaders to traffick to American soldiers over there!

The fact that the feared drug epidemic of returning soldiers(estimated 50% addicts) did not happen(within two years, vets addiction rates were below average) should have got the message across long before Johann Hari wrote a book and went on his promotional tour 2 years ago, trying to get the real facts across about what does and does not cause drug addiction:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/johan...b_6506936.html

So, if it makes you feel better, there is an economic dividing line that race has only been important for as being a visible marker, but is NOT the whole story!

Black Americans who live in wealth and luxury do not share more than what they view as essential symbolic identification with their majority of underclass brothers and sisters! And when it comes to any attempts...regardless of how small...to build any kind of class solidarity, I see the black elite as represented most loudly by the likes of Ta Nahesi Coats, Charles Blow and Michael Eric Dyson assuming their position on the ramparts to fight the ideological battle to keep the black and white division firmly in place!

Another recent little factoid I came across that shows how the racial divide goes beyond race to include the members of the majority class viewed as undesirables I learned most recently about the Jim Crow voting laws passed in Georgia 100 years ago. It seems that the voting tests and other voting restrictions did not just knock 90% of African Americans out of the voting process, BUT it also eliminated 50% of white voters in Georgia as well! And you can bet for damn sure that those 50% were undesirable because they were from the white class that was struggling to scratch out a living!
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