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Old November 1st, 2017, 01:06 PM   #41
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I don't think that there was ever any vested interest in having compassion for drug addicts of any flavor. Acid casualties were, and are, derided as lunatics and schizophrenics instead of truly helping what went wrong with them. I don't think that treating the crack epidemic was ever the option. I don't think anyone wanted to fix it, and I still don't think that anyone wants to fix the current issues that are facing not only the inner cities but the suburbs and the rural areas.
As I've said before(the still suppressed investigation by Gary Webb 30 years ago), the crack and cocaine epidemics were deliberately instigated through the CIA and their agents and assets found throughout US law enforcement and various levels of government who were all taking a cut on a business started originally because the CIA has to create dark money operations to fund clandestine programs...like the Contras in Nicaragua. As with the everyday organized crime operations, everyone in the pipeline has to get their cut to guarantee their silence, so the operation can continue working quietly, undisturbed and profit those who've set it all up.

The CIA had no qualms about sending cheaper rock cocaine first to South Central LA and other low income black districts, because these were regarded as disaster zones where the consequences wouldn't greatly affect the better neighborhoods surrounding them. The War On Drugs applied two different scales of penalties for holding rock or powdered cocaine..for no justifiable reasons other than crack had been hyped as immediately addictive from the first use..more likely the CIA and their supporting network were already aware that cocaine...which at first was very expensive.... was finding its way to the jet set types on both coasts, and becoming the drug of choice. So, busting everyone at a Hollywood or Wall Street party where there were lines of coke on a table in the back room meant arresting a lot of important and very wealthy people, and obviously they didn't want that!

I'll say up front, I never have tried either, but whatever I've read over the years that has any basis in reality indicates that there's not a whole lot of difference between the forms of the drug...just in who uses them! So, when it comes to concern for life, the CIA and the Colombian, Contra and local gangsters they worked through did not give a rat's ass about anyone's health...even the rich who along with their spoiled kids were snorting coke in the 80's!

When it comes to what I find most infuriating and misleading about the OP's PBS editorial, it's that it tries to present the issue as black vs white issue of racial discrimination and racial favoritism....which if it plays a part sure as hell is not the whole story, and PBS has no interest or intentions of stepping out beyond pure identity issues they commonly present for their mostly white/mostly upper middle class older viewers and listeners. They will never present class issues or point out the abuses of power by large corporations who override the political process(I'm just amazed that CBS did so..but that only happens on rare occasion), so they point to the approval of the recovery drug-Noxolone as some sort of sign that authorities are concerned for white youth addicted to hillbilly heroin that didn't exist for black crack addicts..who were called "Super Predators" by the Clintons...in case anyone's forgot the bipartisan character of the War on Drugs...that goes unmentioned on corporate-funded PBS and NPR!

It doesn't occur to them that Big Pharma selling drugs to counter the adverse effects of other drugs they market isn't any sort of compassion or sign of caring about public welfare! So, putting another drug out there to make money off of, is an easy choice for government and Big Pharma. While efforts to restrict or control the flow of prescribed drugs by uncorrupted DEA agents were stomped down as soon as Big Pharma enlisted all of the politicians(including president Obama) that they carry around in their hip pocket! This CBS-60 Minutes report actually is a return to the old days of when 60 Minutes used to always do hard-hitting, non-nonsense journalism....I wonder how that happened?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-dea-...-and-congress/

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In the midst of the worst drug epidemic in American history, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's ability to keep addictive opioids off U.S. streets was derailed -- that according to Joe Rannazzisi, one of the most important whistleblowers ever interviewed by 60 Minutes. Rannazzisi ran the DEA's Office of Diversion Control, the division that regulates and investigates the pharmaceutical industry. Now in a joint investigation by 60 Minutes and The Washington Post, Rannazzisi tells the inside story of how, he says, the opioid crisis was allowed to spread -- aided by Congress, lobbyists, and a drug distribution industry that shipped, almost unchecked, hundreds of millions of pills to rogue pharmacies and pain clinics providing the rocket fuel for a crisis that, over the last two decades, has claimed 200,000 lives. ............................................contin ued at https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-dea-...-and-congress/
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There's reasons why these people are turning to these drugs and they need to be addressed. I think that there is a hole in society, a gap left by materialism and the endless pursuit of a dream that is long dead, which cannot be filled properly. People just don't have a meaning to live, and I think once people have this realization, they turn to something that numbs those thoughts, or perhaps gives some sort of meaning to them.
It shouldn't come as a surprise that so many people start self-medicating with different kinds of drugs when they start feeling their lives are getting out of control, or they lose hope for the future! That's why Johann Hari...who was doing interviews all over the place a year or two ago, says he first started questioning the standard disease model for alcohol and drug abuse while working in the skid row district of Vancouver...Canada's west coast city that has long held the greatest gaps in wealth and living standards. When Hari read the statistics of addiction rates of returning Vietnam Veterans he wanted to know why they were declining rapidly and WHY no one in positions of authority were asking the question and trying to find out the reasons!

Obviously, different people have different sets of susceptibility to addiction and addictive behaviors. (I seem to be at the low end of the scale, so I can't comment or condemn those who are prone to addictions). One clear contributor to addiction that is never mentioned anymore is the pernicious mind-controlling effects of modern advertising and marketing techniques. All of the critics of the ad biz back in the 60's and 70's like consumer lobbyist-Ralph Nader and former ad exec-Jerry Mander, are still out there in their 80's now, writing books, giving lectures and doing interviews...but to either foreign or alternative media sources. Anyone who criticizes how these mind-control operations work is blacklisted from major network TV, radio, print and the online resources they control.

But, it stands to reason this wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar industry if it wasn't producing results for the clients! Decades ago, the "mad men" advertising agencies started hiring psychology grads to help shape the advertising campaigns and get inside the consumer's head to stimulate more demand. And as soon as you are placed in front of a TV screen or today..a personal computing device, the process of destroying the subject's self-esteem by feeding insecurities that can only be satisfied by the advertised product or service all begins!

The teenage years are the great playground for advertisers to manipulate insecurities, but I recall one child psychologist lamenting that she has girls as young as 8 or 9 asking how they should diet or lose weight!

When I see people...even idiots my age who've become addicted to cell phones and other PD's, out and about with their eyes always on their screens...afraid to look away even for a second, even while crossing busy intersections, I think to myself that this is every bit as harmful and dangerous an addiction as any chemical drug they might take! But, I think the consumerism, the focus on materialism and all of the bullshit social media platforms and enabling devices like Iphones all make people more and more prone to addiction. And there's no solving the problem without a holistic approach to sollving by changing the kinds of societies we have to live in today.

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Old November 11th, 2017, 09:57 AM   #42
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I mentioned the uptick in addiction being caused by pill pushers, that is it, it's not a black, white issue it's a human issue. You are such a racist, and love to play victim. I am not responsible for your problems, be an adult and deal with them instead of blaming white people for everything.
Why not play the reverse racism card to justify an oppressive system! If you were as "christian" as advertised, you would be concerned....it's in your bible! But, now that we live in an era when bible-believin christians have to stand by a christian leader(Roy Moore)who among his sins, was fucking 14 year old girls three decades ago...I guess anything goes!
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Thoughts on the article (assuming you read it)?
Where did we see the first wide spread use of crack?
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Where did we see the first wide spread use of crack?
In South Central LA I believe. I could be wrong though.
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In South Central LA I believe. I could be wrong though.
If South Central wasn't the first, it soon became the biggest point of distribution of crack...thanks to that CIA Contra operation.
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Why not play the reverse racism card to justify an oppressive system! If you were as "christian" as advertised, you would be concerned....it's in your bible! But, now that we live in an era when bible-believin christians have to stand by a christian leader(Roy Moore)who among his sins, was fucking 14 year old girls three decades ago...I guess anything goes!
I play no cards, I speak truth. That victim is a known democrat supporter, and worker. Do you not find it strange that she is a vocal supporter of his opponent? She also worked for democrats in the past this doesn't pass the smell test. What pray tell about Judge Moore would let you believe he would have done something like this?

If there was some solid evidence, I would no longer support him, until then it seems as though it is a hit job close to an election!

Not sure in what universe I am not concerned about drug problem, but you do not have a clue about that either. I have lived it with a family member, so maybe don't paint with such a broad brush.
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