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Old July 10th, 2018, 07:47 AM   #31
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So is alcohol, tobacco and painkillers. I donít need the government to moderate for me.
Don't forget gambling, food, video games, cell phones and lots of other things. Go ahead, take a cell phone away from a teenager of 20 something and see if they do not get anxious, irritable and exhibit many withdrawal symptoms.
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Old July 10th, 2018, 07:49 AM   #32
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What has that to do with the OP?

And government does "moderate" alcohol, and tobacco. Thanks for adding nothing to the thread.

Fact is, marijuana is not the benign substance its vocal boosters make it out to be.


You might as well get used to the whole maryjane wave because it's NOT going away. Pot is big money, big business and big Pharma.

It won't be long until every single state makes MJ legal. Greed wins every time.
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Old July 10th, 2018, 07:50 AM   #33
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What has that to do with the OP?

And government does "moderate" alcohol, and tobacco. Thanks for adding nothing to the thread.

Fact is, marijuana is not the benign substance its vocal boosters make it out to be.
Pretty much only to the minimum age that a person can legally buy it. But "moderate?" You mean if I go into a store they will tell me how many cases of beer I can legally buy or how many cartons of cigerattes?

Boy, you RW conservatives, so anxious to have "big government" run every aspect of our lives. LOL
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The 1930’s called. They want their reefer madness script back
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Old July 10th, 2018, 08:34 AM   #35
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Up here in the Great White North, we will soon discover how things work when marijuana is legalized.

My great frustration is that, as long as pot has been a controlled substance, most of the information comes from two sides of a debate that has never been honest! The policing forces make a lot of easy money enforcing drug laws and don't want to let go of the marijuana cash cow/ while the pro-pot crowd keep telling us marijuana is the magic elixer of life!

What we do know already is that it will be much more difficult detecting pot-smoking dangerous drivers than drunk drivers, because of the length of time marijuana compounds stay in the bloodstream.

Also, we do know that marijuana use...at least heavier use...has damaging effects on brain development of children, and now our Feds are advising that pot should only be legal for those over 25...the age when it's generally recognized that brain development finally ends.....good luck enforcing those rules!

Marijuana is a dangerous drug and can cause unexpected violent and hyperactive behavior among people who are prone towards psychiatric illness....so they shouldn't be using it either.

End result is: it's likely something easier to manage as a legal product than the prohibition industries we've used for decades to try to suppress it and grow organized crime and make police agencies increasingly corrupt!

So, I'll give marijuana an unenthusiastic vote of approval.
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Up here in the Great White North, we will soon discover how things work when marijuana is legalized.

My great frustration is that, as long as pot has been a controlled substance, most of the information comes from two sides of a debate that has never been honest! The policing forces make a lot of easy money enforcing drug laws and don't want to let go of the marijuana cash cow/ while the pro-pot crowd keep telling us marijuana is the magic elixer of life!

What we do know already is that it will be much more difficult detecting pot-smoking dangerous drivers than drunk drivers, because of the length of time marijuana compounds stay in the bloodstream.

Also, we do know that marijuana use...at least heavier use...has damaging effects on brain development of children, and now our Feds are advising that pot should only be legal for those over 25...the age when it's generally recognized that brain development finally ends.....good luck enforcing those rules!

Marijuana is a dangerous drug and can cause unexpected violent and hyperactive behavior among people who are prone towards psychiatric illness....so they shouldn't be using it either.

End result is: it's likely something easier to manage as a legal product than the prohibition industries we've used for decades to try to suppress it and grow organized crime and make police agencies increasingly corrupt!

So, I'll give marijuana an unenthusiastic vote of approval.
It's no more dangerous than anything else. I'd say much less so than other things like opiates. In my experience I'd say less so. And the uses for hemp are far-ranging- from clothing, to food to building materials. There is no reason for any of it to be illegal.
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It's no more dangerous than anything else. I'd say much less so than other things like opiates. In my experience I'd say less so. And the uses for hemp are far-ranging- from clothing, to food to building materials. There is no reason for any of it to be illegal.


It is shocking to me that we are still having this conversation. Living in a retirement community you can imagine the push-back on legalizing MJ. At the same time the seniors are repulsed at the idea of pot, they EMBRACE alcohol at ever increasing levels.
Watch out Happy Hour!! These 60-70-80 and 90 year olds can't wait to get to the bar and HAVE been imbibing for decades. Bloody Mary's for breakfast, a couple of glasses of wine with lunch and martinis for dinner....but marijuana--absolutely EVIL. Scripts of sleeping pills--you betcha! Pain killers--OH YEAH.

But pot? NO WAY IN HELL. What the heck??
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You want to see the real reasons why marijuana is illegal?
Look at who the big spenders who are fighting to keep it illegal. It should turn a moral person's stomach!
Police and Prisons (Unsurprisingly) Support Prohibition
Police unions, private prisons, and prison guard unions have all lobbied to maintain prohibition. In 2010, a police union lobbyist in California helped to defeat Prop 19, the ballot measure to legalize recreational marijuana. In 2008, the California Correctional Peace Officers Association spent $1 million fighting against a measure that would have “reduced sentences and parole times for nonviolent drug offenders while emphasizing drug treatment over prison.” The Corrections Corporation of America, one of America’s largest for-profit prison companies, revealed that continuing the drug war is a central pillar of their business strategy.

Our Vices Don't Want Competition
The other two industries fighting legalization should come as no surprise: both pharmaceutical companies and alcohol brands are spending money keep prohibition around, too. As we reported last year, certain anti-cannabis academics are funded by big pharma. Alcohol companies are also lobbying against legalization. In one example, the California Beer & Beverage Distributors made campaign contributions to a committee dedicated to preventing marijuana legalization and taxation.

To summarize, police unions, prison guard unions, for-profit prisons, and drug and alcohol companies spend huge sums of money each year to keep cannabis illegal, and why? Because it ensures job security and profits. We’re speechless, though sadly not surprised.
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Saw an article yesterday that said prescription opiates are killing more people than ALL of the "illegal" drugs combined. That's more than heroine, crack, coke meth, X, and everything else people shoot smoke or swallow. Never heard of anyone DYING on pot !!! Of course alcohol and smoking still kill more people than all the drugs illicit or prescription.
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