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Old October 3rd, 2016, 09:36 AM   #131
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You still missed my point. It is not a matter of Putin approving our rights, but Putin approving the mechanism that will strip us of our rights.

Russia has a very long and comprehensive constitution written in 1993. The lists of rights are exhaustive and the list of things that the government cannot do is exhaustive. Everything you hate about Putin and the Russian government is derived from their not following the rule of law and the Russian Constitution. Russia is now under the rule of man (Putin).

Anytime our federal government does not follow the rule of law or the Constitution, that is the same as Putin. There is no classify the violations of the rule of law as benevolent or malevolent. There is no difference. That is the rule of man. Once that Pandora's Box is opened, there is no shutting it. Obamacare is a good example. Putin would approve of how that was created and probably took notes. So you think that is the last time that half of the country will be un-represented in creation of a law that affects everyone? Executive orders are another thing Putin would approve of. What Putin would not approve of is our slow and methodical shift to the rule of man, but a shift none the less.

When someone advocates the rule of man, then Putin approves.
I see your point, but still doubt you see my point..

Putin does not approve of the rights you and I enjoy on a daily basis. Were we Russians commenting on a political forum, we'd definitely be on the FSB's radar screen. We definitely would be watched if we were Protestants. If we owned a business, we'd definitely be visited by the shadow government.

If we got a bit too popular with our anti-Putin rhetoric, we might be shot in front of the Kremlin, and no one would ever be charged with our deaths.

Russia has a healthcare system. The Constitution of the Russian Federation gives all citizens the right to free healthcare. I doubt Putin looks to Obamacare for inspiration.
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 11:31 AM   #132
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I see your point, but still doubt you see my point..

Putin does not approve of the rights you and I enjoy on a daily basis. Were we Russians commenting on a political forum, we'd definitely be on the FSB's radar screen. We definitely would be watched if we were Protestants. If we owned a business, we'd definitely be visited by the shadow government.

If we got a bit too popular with our anti-Putin rhetoric, we might be shot in front of the Kremlin, and no one would ever be charged with our deaths.

Russia has a healthcare system. The Constitution of the Russian Federation gives all citizens the right to free healthcare. I doubt Putin looks to Obamacare for inspiration.
I understand your point. You have seen it up close. I have not. Of course Putin does not approve of our rights. His KGB commie DNA will not allow it. Russians have more rights than we do. The difference is we have not allowed our rights to be completly decimated by the rule of man and Russia has.

Russia does have the right to healthcare in Chapter 2, Article 41 of their constitution. The difference is we now have Obamacare, which is not in our Constitution.
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 05:37 PM   #133
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The FDR hand-picked court the best legal minds pretty much sums up goober's knowledge. Note that goober will not touch the substance of any of my posts.

Goober still had no idea what interstate commerce or regulations means in the Constitution. It has nothing to do with where parts orginate and end up of control through regulation.

The worst part is he can vote.
Seriously, you posted something with substance, when? Where?
Was it this forum, or another one?

I'd like to see that post...
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Seriously, you posted something with substance, when? Where?
Was it this forum, or another one?

I'd like to see that post...
Run, goober, run.
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 06:36 PM   #135
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Run, goober, run.
No seriously, you made a post with substance?
I never saw it, all I ever see from you is the snippy troll shit.
Never a whit of substance, never a response to the issue at hand...

Did you do it this year? Or like three years ago?
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No seriously, you made a post with substance?
I never saw it, all I ever see from you is the snippy troll shit.
Never a whit of substance, never a response to the issue at hand...

Did you do it this year? Or like three years ago?
Run, goober, run.
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Run, goober, run.
Now girls, what have I told you about all this tacky purse slinging?
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I understand your point. You have seen it up close. I have not. Of course Putin does not approve of our rights. His KGB commie DNA will not allow it. Russians have more rights than we do. The difference is we have not allowed our rights to be completly decimated by the rule of man and Russia has.

Russia does have the right to healthcare in Chapter 2, Article 41 of their constitution. The difference is we now have Obamacare, which is not in our Constitution.
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