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Old September 19th, 2017, 09:04 AM   #1
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Old September 19th, 2017, 09:41 AM   #2
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Just FYI. The University of Wisconsin, Madison, is now and has ALWAYS been a bastion of LIBERALISM. Right or wrong, Madison, WI (my hometown--and my college) is a pretty typical university town, culture, population, mindset. I'm sure there are a few conservatives but they learn quickly that their conservative attitudes are NOT welcome.

As a rule, college students are a liberal crowd. They hate injustice. They despise bigotry. They are noble, idealistic, young and full of fire. They march, protest and shout their displeasure at conservative views. During the Vietnam War they bombed buildings on campus.
Liberal professors (almost everywhere) outnumber conservative staff about 12 to 1. Right or wrong, this is our nation as it stands now.

So here is my question. I have asked it many MANY times but never seem to get an adequate, satisfying answer: Why don't more conservatives become educators?? If the conservative part of this nation WANT our young minds to be molded to their way of thinking, WHY NOT recruit for conservative professors? High school teachers? Why not encourage your party to become educators and change the status quo??

The RHanders do nothing but bitch about liberal propaganda--rewriting history--fuzzy math--Common Core---no prayer in school---political correctness........on and on and on....BUT do absolutely NOTHING to change the status quo. So, if colleges and universities LIKE UW-Madison continue to spew liberal junk it's no one's fault but your own. You have done absolutely nothing to change the system. Put up or SHUT UP.
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Just FYI. The University of Wisconsin, Madison, is now and has ALWAYS been a bastion of LIBERALISM. Right or wrong, Madison, WI (my hometown--and my college) is a pretty typical university town, culture, population, mindset. I'm sure there are a few conservatives but they learn quickly that their conservative attitudes are NOT welcome.

As a rule, college students are a liberal crowd. They hate injustice. They despise bigotry. They are noble, idealistic, young and full of fire. They march, protest and shout their displeasure at conservative views. During the Vietnam War they bombed buildings on campus.
Liberal professors (almost everywhere) outnumber conservative staff about 12 to 1. Right or wrong, this is our nation as it stands now.

So here is my question. I have asked it many MANY times but never seem to get an adequate, satisfying answer: Why don't more conservatives become educators?? If the conservative part of this nation WANT our young minds to be molded to their way of thinking, WHY NOT recruit for conservative professors? High school teachers? Why not encourage your party to become educators and change the status quo??

The RHanders do nothing but bitch about liberal propaganda--rewriting history--fuzzy math--Common Core---no prayer in school---political correctness........on and on and on....BUT do absolutely NOTHING to change the status quo. So, if colleges and universities LIKE UW-Madison continue to spew liberal junk it's no one's fault but your own. You have done absolutely nothing to change the system. Put up or SHUT UP.
I have answered that. It isn't that conservatives don't get into academia, it is that in an environment that fosters analysis and intellectual pursuits, conservatives soon learn that liberalism is the greater good for the greater number and they become liberal.
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Just FYI. The University of Wisconsin, Madison, is now and has ALWAYS been a bastion of LIBERALISM. Right or wrong, Madison, WI (my hometown--and my college) is a pretty typical university town, culture, population, mindset. I'm sure there are a few conservatives but they learn quickly that their conservative attitudes are NOT welcome.

As a rule, college students are a liberal crowd. They hate injustice. They despise bigotry. They are noble, idealistic, young and full of fire. They march, protest and shout their displeasure at conservative views. During the Vietnam War they bombed buildings on campus.
Liberal professors (almost everywhere) outnumber conservative staff about 12 to 1. Right or wrong, this is our nation as it stands now.

So here is my question. I have asked it many MANY times but never seem to get an adequate, satisfying answer: Why don't more conservatives become educators?? If the conservative part of this nation WANT our young minds to be molded to their way of thinking, WHY NOT recruit for conservative professors? High school teachers? Why not encourage your party to become educators and change the status quo??

The RHanders do nothing but bitch about liberal propaganda--rewriting history--fuzzy math--Common Core---no prayer in school---political correctness........on and on and on....BUT do absolutely NOTHING to change the status quo. So, if colleges and universities LIKE UW-Madison continue to spew liberal junk it's no one's fault but your own. You have done absolutely nothing to change the system. Put up or SHUT UP.
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Why do many educators favor socialism?


Furthermore colleges are a hostile environment for those who do not tow the line and have become increasingly so.


How does a professor gain tenure?


You will notice that alternatives to traditional "higher education" will start to emerge as the value diplomas continue to diminish.
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How does a professor gain tenure?

Every school has a totally different system and agenda for a prof to obtain tenure. It does not have anything with who you voted for in the Presidential election.

You will notice that alternatives to traditional "higher education" will start to emerge as the value diplomas continue to diminish.
The value of a higher education diploma has NOT diminished. If anything, it's increased. However, there are now five times as many people RECEIVING these diplomas for approximately the same number of job opportunities - so the competition is stiffer. But, as many people like to joke about, waiters, baristas, sales clerks, even McDonald's counter workers now have Bachelors Degrees because so many people with diplomas are looking for work, employers can hire more educated people for positions. So even those blue-collar jobs that once did not require a diploma are now at a premium and diploma holders receive them, making the degrees more valuable.
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The value of a higher education diploma has NOT diminished. If anything, it's increased. However, there are now five times as many people RECEIVING these diplomas for approximately the same number of job opportunities - so the competition is stiffer. But, as many people like to joke about, waiters, baristas, sales clerks, even McDonald's counter workers now have Bachelors Degrees because so many people with diplomas are looking for work, employers can hire more educated people for positions. So even those blue-collar jobs that once did not require a diploma are now at a premium and diploma holders receive them, making the degrees more valuable.


I asked how not if who you voted for had anything to do w/ the process.

Thank you for reinforcing my point about the value of a college degree.
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Why do many educators favor socialism?


Furthermore colleges are a hostile environment for those who do not tow the line and have become increasingly so.


How does a professor gain tenure?


You will notice that alternatives to traditional "higher education" will start to emerge as the value diplomas continue to diminish.


Did you attend college, Sabcat? Graduate school? Why do you ask about professor tenure?? How is that relevant??
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Really, educated people are more likely to be Liberal than conservative, and the more education, the less likely conservative beliefs will survive.

Why is it that every college faculty is chock full of Liberals, even the faculties of conservative theological seminaries have quite a few Liberals.
And the better the school, the more Liberal the faculty.
Across all disciplines, I mean, you expect historians and economists to be Liberal, but so are Physicists and Chemical Engineers.

It's not programming, it's the result of open minded inquiry, and years of study, by really intelligent people.

Put that up against the average Breitbart reader or Limbaugh listener.
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Did you attend college, Sabcat? Graduate school? Why do you ask about professor tenure?? How is that relevant??
I did attend college. had I followed the advice of my councilors I would have ended up as a professor. Not that that is relevant.

Tenure is very relevant when talking about people going into the education system as a career. You do not think so?
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Really, educated people are more likely to be Liberal than conservative, and the more education, the less likely conservative beliefs will survive.

Why is it that every college faculty is chock full of Liberals, even the faculties of conservative theological seminaries have quite a few Liberals.
And the better the school, the more Liberal the faculty.
Across all disciplines, I mean, you expect historians and economists to be Liberal, but so are Physicists and Chemical Engineers.

It's not programming, it's the result of open minded inquiry, and years of study, by really intelligent people.

Put that up against the average Breitbart reader or Limbaugh listener.
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