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Old December 4th, 2017, 11:31 AM   #91
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EXACTLY what premise of yours,explained here, might that be and EXACTLY how is it supported by right to left's comments?
I wanted to find the motivations behind libertarian ideology, and it turns out that inflicting poverty and suffering are as desired by today's libertarians as they were for conservatives like Thomas Hobbes more than two centuries ago.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 12:05 PM   #92
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Forbes ran for President but did not get enough votes to get on the GOP ticket. I forget what year that was but more than two decades ago. Forbes looks strange to me.
1992 forbes challenged Bush. same year Perot ran as an independent.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 12:18 PM   #93
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I wanted to find the motivations behind libertarian ideology, and it turns out that inflicting poverty and suffering are as desired by today's libertarians as they were for conservatives like Thomas Hobbes more than two centuries ago.
Where'd you get the idea that libertarians desire inflicting poverty and suffering? You might want to quit listening to whoever's force feeding you such nonsense.

What you're describing are socialists, not libertarians. It's not libertarians who are responsible for long bread lines, grocery stores full of empty shelves, things that result in black markets, things that result in increased crime rates, more laws that throw more people in prison, walls with guns to keep people from defecting, etc.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 01:14 PM   #94
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Inequality will continue even if you establish what you consider "an equal playingfield." Essential public services need to be made public again and ripped away from private for-profit monopolists. Banking should be public also, instead of allowing private banking to use money they create artificially to make claims on real assets of the real economy.

And, since the ones who are "succeeding" on this "equal playingfield" will be able to roll over their accumulated wealth to build greater wealth(if that's their goal) we'll end up with billionaires and corporations who try to eliminate their competition to establish monopolies where they can control prices. No doubt this will include buying a few politicians (who come surprisingly cheap for the riches they provide their benefactors), the same shit will happen over and over again! One way or another, capitalist systems that drive inequality and resource depletion have to be brought to an end, or there will be no one left on this planet to argue about it!


Sorry, but you missed the main point entirely. Reasonable people understand that the poor will always be with us and no reasonable American voter thinks that we the people will purge our capitalism completely. A completely fair and equal playing field is NOT the goal--at least not for me and millions like me.
The GOAL is to level the field as much as and as often as we can...AND....to avoid allowing 1% of the population to get all the breaks--all the power--all the control--all the money--all the education---all the employment.

Balance is the key--as much balance as possible. I will repeat what I said previously: HUMAN CAPITAL. We need to fully tap our human capital and we will never achieve that if our "humans" are left alongside the road.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 02:31 PM   #95
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An opinion piece by a guy with zero economic credentials who works for a right wing propaganda machine.

Who makes an incoherent argument, that completely ignores the facts.

I can see the appeal to people who are looking for a conclusion, and have no understanding of the topic.

But only a moron could be fooled by an explanation of the 2008 collapse that went back to a 1934 law and completely ignored the development of mortgage backed derivatives.
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The proof is evident every time you speak. You're a leftist, which makes you wrong at the starting gate. The truth isn't your goal or motive. Like every leftist, it's all about the agenda.
The only thing you have "proved" is that you are the ignorant tool of your right wing masters.

Try engaging on the facts, rather than linking to moronic opinion pieces like they were holy writ.

And when you have to claim you defeated someone, you haven't.
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The only thing you have "proved" is that you are the ignorant tool of your right wing masters.

Try engaging on the facts, rather than linking to moronic opinion pieces like they were holy writ.

And when you have to claim you defeated someone, you haven't.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 04:43 PM   #98
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I know it. I'm simply making sure everyone else can see it as well.
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36 "personality debate" posts in this thread.

Flushed.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 05:26 PM   #100
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36 "personality debate" posts in this thread.

Flushed.
Ahhh crap, and dynasty is a rerun tonight.
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