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Old December 23rd, 2017, 11:49 AM   #31
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Planned US infrastructure spending is 3.8 Trillion short of what is required.
Even if Trump came up with the Trillion, it's still short.

What the Republicans did succeed in doing , is they kept the spending down, during the period when we really could have used the spending, and the money could have been borrowed for a very low interest rate, now we can spend less, get even less, and pay back more, and the lack of infrastructure will work to slow growth.

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LOL The Obama / Dims shovel ready scam with nearly a trillion dollars.

Obama added ~$9 trillion to the debt, and now goober says we should have added more. Hmmm. Isn't this the same goober crying about the debt that Trump will allegedly create?
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Old December 23rd, 2017, 11:51 AM   #32
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LOL RNG prefers Obama deficits (added nearly $9 trillion to the debt) with less than an average of 2% growth over his 8 miserable years. Good golly, RNG and goober deserve each other.
He is a foreign agent hell bent on the destruction of America freedoms and liberties. There are other agents who post on here. Some even stifle the voices of liberty minded posters.

The collectivists know that their ideas cannot hold up in the free market of ideas so...
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Old December 23rd, 2017, 11:52 AM   #33
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LOL The Obama / Dims shovel ready scam with nearly a trillion dollars.

Obama added ~$9 trillion to the debt, and now goober says we should have added more. Hmmm. Isn't this the same goober crying about the debt that Trump will allegedly create?
hypocrisy at its finest.
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Old December 23rd, 2017, 11:53 AM   #34
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I was an Ironworker for a long time but never a Steelworker. The two trades are vastly different. Steelworkers make the steel but Ironworkers nut and bolt it together. China is flooding the market with their government supported steel industry products. China is also adept in making fake old US coins which are valuable when real. China is doing it!
Well we did ship them all of the scrap from the world trade towers before it could be analysed. It is only fair that we buy it back.
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Planned US infrastructure spending is 3.8 Trillion short of what is required.

Most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Can you even comprehend what 3.8 trillion dollars is? This money does not exist. The bail outs of GM should not have happened. The fake STIMULUS should not have happened. Quantitative Easing if it was a good idea it should only have happened for a very short time. Not years upon years. You Lefties talking about how not taking as much taxes from tax payers is a no no because of the national debt are absurd. Truly absurd.
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lots and lots of loans made while Bill Clinton was in office defaulted in the real estate bubble. It was government driven Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bad loans that burst the bubble and those were going like gangbusters at the directive of Clinton and then continued under Bush.
You are entitled to your opinion.
You are not entitled to your own facts, all you are doing by posting nonsense like this is making it clear, you have no idea what really happened.

Loans made while Clinton was president were generally limited to 80% of appraised value, with proof of income required. Even after the crash, for most property, appraised values were higher than what they had been in the 1990's.
What you saw in the 2000's was a big run up in appraised value, and big loosening of loan requirements, your income was whatever you wrote on the application, no proof required, in some cases you could borrow 125% of the appraised value.
It's that crazy shit written in 2005 and 2006 that collapsed.
And Freddie and Fannie did a lot better than the rest of the market, because their requirements didn't fall as much as the rest of the market.
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Most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Can you even comprehend what 3.8 trillion dollars is? This money does not exist. The bail outs of GM should not have happened. The fake STIMULUS should not have happened. Quantitative Easing if it was a good idea it should only have happened for a very short time. Not years upon years. You Lefties talking about how not taking as much taxes from tax payers is a no no because of the national debt are absurd. Truly absurd.
How many bridges need to be repaired or replaced ?
How much road needs to be repaired, replaced or expanded?
How many gas mains?
How many water mains?
How many sewer mains?
How many shipping canals?
How many Locks?
How many dams?

What happens to economic growth, when we close down roads and bridges for safety concerns
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How many bridges need to be repaired or replaced ?
How much road needs to be repaired, replaced or expanded?
How many gas mains?
How many water mains?
How many sewer mains?
How many shipping canals?
How many Locks?
How many dams?

What happens to economic growth, when we close down roads and bridges for safety concerns
How many were repaired or replaced with Obama's STIMULUS trillion dollars.


And why on earth should the federal government be paying for gas mains and sewers and water mains? Foolishness.
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How many were repaired or replaced with Obama's STIMULUS trillion dollars.
Some, not nearly enough.
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Some, not nearly enough.
I waded through the list of recipients who carved up the almost trillion dollars. It is obscene what that money actually went for. Planned parenthood roof repairs and schools to hire teachers. It was a political boondoggle.
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