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Old March 22nd, 2015, 03:38 PM   #21
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I don't know exactly your situation but up here journeymen carpenters, plumbers, electricians, machinists, mechanics and metalworkers are in great demand. BAs are mostly waiting tables or equivalent.

(Journeyman means finished tech training, an apprenticeship and passed an association or government certification exam. I don't know if you use that terminology.)
Same is happening here, construtction in TN is booming right now.
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Yes, if America is to compete in the 21st century, we need a less educated population, one that is willing to work for 3rd world wages, that will end illegal immigration, this country will be worse than Mexico......
Trademen are NOT UNEDUCATED.

I have worked with people with masters degrees that I had to calculate % and ratios for them. frightening.
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Trademen are NOT UNDEDUCATED.

I have worked with people with masters degrees that I had to calculate % and ratios for them. frightening.
Hey...I know what materials cost. Two plumbers just put in about $400 worth of plastic and PVC glue and left that same day with a cheque for $4800.

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Trademen are NOT UNEDUCATED.

I have worked with people with masters degrees that I had to calculate % and ratios for them. frightening.
That's in Tennessee, where 5th Grade is considered a masters degree....
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That's in Tennessee, where 5th Grade is considered a masters degree....
Actually in TN, College is Free for the first 2 years.

But hey, you to if you move to TN and finish you next 7 years of your K-12 education, you might can see what college life is like..

But you will have to work real hard, because it does require a 2.6 GPA to take advantage of the program.

OH Wait.. even OBAMA PRAISES TN Education system.. Must be good.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinio...olumn/3465103/


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And yet both Tennessee and D.C. stood out Thursday for making the fastest education gains as the results from the "nation's report card," the respected National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), were released today.

NOW GET YOUR PLATE READY AND EAT THAT CROW SANDWICH. and you can turn around at your place of employment and fix your fries to go with it.

I hear next week you get to move up to MILKSHAKES prep.

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Well.... All it is is a piece of paper...
Honestly, they should hire for work ethic, drive, ability to learn.


On the job training would be so much better than a diploma.
You can be replaced by a robot or an analog program that makes the decisions humans used to make. Unless you are programmer of have some highly specialized skill you can be among the homeless. We are reproducing far too many humans while the jobs them are being reduced.

Now we can add this the college loan bombshell resulting from very bad decisions and a failure to grasp our reality.

The College Loan Bombshell Hidden in the Budget - Michael Grunwald - POLITICO Magazine
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You can be replaced by a robot or an analog program that makes the decisions humans used to make. Unless you are programmer of have some highly specialized skill you can be among the homeless. We are reproducing far too many humans while the jobs them are being reduced.

Now we can add this the college loan bombshell resulting from very bad decisions and a failure to grasp our reality.

The College Loan Bombshell Hidden in the Budget - Michael Grunwald - POLITICO Magazine
I'm very skeptic of this futurologist kind of bull about robots or programs replacing human workers. Maybe in Star Trek but not in the real world.

But since we have too many people I guess that means war.
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Hey...I know what materials cost. Two plumbers just put in about $400 worth of plastic and PVC glue and left that same day with a cheque for $4800.

Yeah, I have a friend who will either give her home away, because she can't get what she owes on it, or she will pay a huge price for having mold removed, because she can not believe we can do the work ourselves for a few hundred dollars. Our city is paying huge prices for things like simple concrete pads underneath expensive information boards in the parks. People have totally lost site of what to pay for things, as they totally rely the "expert" who can take them to the cleaners.
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I'm very skeptic of this futurologist kind of bull about robots or programs replacing human workers. Maybe in Star Trek but not in the real world.

But since we have too many people I guess that means war.
I have seen machines and computers replace workers, and don't doubt that shift is happening.

I now live in farm and timber country, and have seen the jobs go. For awhile I lived on the coast where women lost their shrimp picking jobs to a machine. I did both hand pick shrimp and work on the conveyor belt when the machine came in.

https://books.google.com/books?id=p-...20mill&f=false

Agriculture Industry Looking To Replace Farm Workers With Robotic Machines | Fox News Latino This link will tell you of the labor shortage. We have a large homeless population and I can think of a few people who should be told, "you work or you don't eat". My children picked strawberries on a farm, with me. We did this because I wanted them to be adjusted to working, and we don't adjust our young for working any more, but give everyone food stamps. A homeless person can get a couple of hundred dollars of food stamps, and a college loan, which in some cases pays for the beer. Hum, perhaps I should avoid the reality of my neighborhood, because I don't like it. Whatever, as long as we can afford to feed the homeless, I suppose it is a good thing we develop machines to resolve the labor shortage problem.

According to studies of ants, the larger the population, the greater the chances of war, but our high tech. armed forces does not need the number of people needed during WW1 and WWII. We now have million dollar bombs with multiple war heads, and robots that have replaced the troops we once needed.

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I have seen machines and computers replace workers, and don't doubt that shift is happening.

I now live in farm and timber country, and have seen the jobs go. For awhile I lived on the coast where women lost their shrimp picking jobs to a machine. I did both hand pick shrimp and work on the conveyor belt when the machine came in.

https://books.google.com/books?id=p-...20mill&f=false

Agriculture Industry Looking To Replace Farm Workers With Robotic Machines | Fox News Latino This link will tell you of the labor shortage. We have a large homeless population and I can think of a few people who should be told, "you work or you don't eat". My children picked strawberries on a farm, with me. We did this because I wanted them to be adjusted to working, and we don't adjust our young for working any more, but give everyone food stamps. A homeless person can get a couple of hundred dollars of food stamps, and a college loan, which in some cases pays for the beer. Hum, perhaps I should avoid the reality of my neighborhood, because I don't like it. Whatever, as long as we can afford to feed the homeless, I suppose it is a good thing we develop machines to resolve the labor shortage problem.

According to studies of ants, the larger the population, the greater the chances of war, but our high tech. armed forces does not need the number of people needed during WW1 and WWII. We now have million dollar bombs with multiple war heads, and robots that have replaced the troops we once needed.
It just takes fewer in the military to kill more people, that's all. And it was the population reduction of wars, not the employment opportunities that the General was referring to I imagine.

But I agree it is happening. Self serve check-outs at more and more stores. And apparently we are about one or two minimum wage increases away from mechanical burger flippers.
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