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Old January 12th, 2015, 10:49 AM   #51
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..... but on average, people with community college degrees increase your earnings by $126/week. That's $6,552/year or $262,080 for your lifetime if you work 40 years. That is far more than the cost of community college for 2 years.

What this tells us is that pre K-12 has become a miserable failure. All the billions spent on pre K, Head Start, all of it the liberal-left wet dream proven to be a failure, so they maintain those program, at ever increasing expense, and now seek to add on top of that another layer for the government-education complex. An complex mainly run by the liberal-left as far as education goes.


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Ain't socialism grand? Free everything! For everybody!! No one has to pay!!!

Dummies out of pre-K-12 reading at 7th grade levels and now two free years of CC tacked on? Liberalism is a mental disorder.
And leaving them reading at that 7th grade level is going to help ?? I wonder what it costs us in terms of welfare ?? How many of those trapped at the bottom, remain at the bottom their whole lives ?? What percentage of those that can't read are, or will be, on some sort of government subsidy in their life time ?

It seems to me if we can raise the education level of even a portion on them, we'd be better off in the long run.
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And leaving them reading at that 7th grade level is going to help ?? I wonder what it costs us in terms of welfare ?? How many of those trapped at the bottom, remain at the bottom their whole lives ?? What percentage of those that can't read are, or will be, on some sort of government subsidy in their life time ?

It seems to me if we can raise the education level of even a portion on them, we'd be better off in the long run.
Simple truth.
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For those worried about the cost, his proposal would only be $6b/year. It would only need to generate a 0.04% boost to the economy to pay for itself.
Just 6 billion a year...

Total Student loan debt is 1,200 billion... (I guess that was created at 6 billion baby steps every year).
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And leaving them reading at that 7th grade level is going to help ?? I wonder what it costs us in terms of welfare ?? How many of those trapped at the bottom, remain at the bottom their whole lives ?? What percentage of those that can't read are, or will be, on some sort of government subsidy in their life time ?

It seems to me if we can raise the education level of even a portion on them, we'd be better off in the long run.
This is what you get when you pay for a school system instead of an education system.

It appears that Obama (and I don't think it is just Obama) wants to make College an extension of K-12.. which will produce the same outcomes.
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Just 6 billion a year...

Total Student loan debt is 1,200 billion... (I guess that was created at 6 billion baby steps every year).
What is an average yearly tuition at a community college and what is it at an Ivy league university or a big 10 school?
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What is an average yearly tuition at a community college and what is it at an Ivy league university or a big 10 school?
Actually Ivy League schools have 2 year programs.

Will these be covered, I don't know...

this is a Lead Balloon Trial by Obama to get the young voters back to the party.
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And leaving them reading at that 7th grade level is going to help ?? I wonder what it costs us in terms of welfare ?? How many of those trapped at the bottom, remain at the bottom their whole lives ?? What percentage of those that can't read are, or will be, on some sort of government subsidy in their life time ?

It seems to me if we can raise the education level of even a portion on them, we'd be better off in the long run.

So after pre K-12 they are at a 7th grade reading level, you now feel we should make it essentially pre K-14 so their reading levels will reach the 8th grade level?

What were they doing with pre K-12, and the Head Start programs, to attain such lofty reading levels and makes you believe that two years of CC will really get them going?

The liberal-left lied about pre K, and about Head Start, they have not done 10 worth of good is apparent, and studies show that. Yet those programs are now sacred cows, and two free years of CC would eventually become the same. And those C+ grades will naturally be all the rage, As I wrote previously, look at the Dean's list at Columbia, the percent on that list; look at the honor's list at Harvard, the percent on that list. Sham on top of a sham.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.


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Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Yep, it's on a par with the conservative mental disorder.
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Actually Ivy League schools have 2 year programs.

Will these be covered, I don't know...

this is a Lead Balloon Trial by Obama to get the young voters back to the party.
Which dodges the question.
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