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Old January 13th, 2015, 12:13 AM   #81
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C'mon...that's a stretch. Look at it as a reverse sort of scholarship. Instead of getting it at the front end...you get it at the exit. This is probably even more fair for those really doing it tough, financially.

In any case, how does this teach anyone to be fiscally sound? Isn't it sound to graduate at the pinnacle of your class???

Sorry, matey...I can't agree....
I will tell you when you got to pay for it.. You don't Screw off...

My Daughters paid for their schools, other than scholarship money they received.

We set up UTMAs for them the money was theirs, they spent it like they needed it.

My youngest, Worked at a Dairy Queen 40 hours a week, and paid for her college with exception for her Scholarhship money.. and since she paid as she went, she had enough money, (After she worked 2 more years after graduation) to pay cash for her first home.

I use her as an example when I teach my Finacial Peace classes.

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Old January 13th, 2015, 02:23 AM   #82
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I will tell you when you got to pay for it.. You don't Screw off...

My Daughters paid for their schools, other than scholarship money they received.

We set up UTMAs for them the money was theirs, they spent it like they needed it.

My youngest, Worked at a Dairy Queen 40 hours a week, and paid for her college with exception for her Scholarhship money.. and since she paid as she went, she had enough money, (After she worked 2 more years after graduation) to pay cash for her first home.

I use her as an example when I teach my Finacial Peace classes.
(my BOLD) So...they should have turned that scholarship money down...to teach them fiscal responsibility, then???
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I will tell you when you got to pay for it.. You don't Screw off...

My Daughters paid for their schools, other than scholarship money they received.

We set up UTMAs for them the money was theirs, they spent it like they needed it.

My youngest, Worked at a Dairy Queen 40 hours a week, and paid for her college with exception for her Scholarhship money.. and since she paid as she went, she had enough money, (After she worked 2 more years after graduation) to pay cash for her first home.

I use her as an example when I teach my Finacial Peace classes.
Kudos to your seemingly hard working and financially responsible daughters, TNV. If you ask me, you've done a good job as a parent.

But, I do wonder though if they or yourself ever gave building their credit history and rating by means of taking out school loans and paying off those school loans any thought, particularly since doing so could pay dividends, so to speak, later on when or if they potentially apply for a mortgage with regards to getting better interest rates?

Indeed, they might have actually saved more money long term via those potential lower interest mortgage payments than they would pay in interest for their school loans, if they went down that route instead.

Just a thought...and, of course, the devil's in the fine financial details, so to speak.

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Old January 13th, 2015, 06:20 AM   #84
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I would strongly support this IF there were strong performance standards. No more participation certificates. And although perhaps hard to legislate, there needs to be some way of filtering out studies of traditional Polynesian basket weaving techniques as a field of study for this type of program.

But I feel that there are several benefits to having a more educated populous, and a payout in the higher taxes collected from the grads getting better paying jobs.
I'm with you hon strict performance standards, but how does a more more college grads that can't find jobs in their minors create more jobs and collect enough extra taxes to fund the program?

It is a nice feel good thought, but the main emphasis should be increasing the supply of jobs so the grads will have an outlet for their newly acquired knowledge.
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No I think if you take a loan you pay it off, It builds character...

And it teaches you the merit of being fiscally sound.

If a person cannot handle paying back student loans, they cannot handle their fiscal house if it is paid off for them.

This is why I give to charities, Because as I learn if I can manage giving, I can manage the 80-90% that I have left over after my giving is done.
And busting your ass to stay at the top of your class to EARN not having to repay that loan, doesn't build character also ?? Working hard to avoid having to carry that debt forward isn't being fiscally responsible ??
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We don't want no free College, paid for with our taxes! My kids going to a 4 year University, why should I pay for the parasites? I know because maybe then, they won't be parasites.

Americans Unwilling to Pay for Free Community College
Nearly half of American voters favor President Barack Obama's plan to make community college tuition-free for promising students but not if they have to pay for it.
A new Rasmussen Reports survey found that 47 percent of likely voters favor the president's plan, while 39 percent oppose it and 14 percent are undecided.
But just 34 percent said they are willing to pay more in taxes so that students can attend community college for free, while a majority, 57 percent, said they are not willing to pay more to support the program.
Democrats are far more likely than Republicans to favor Obama's proposal 73 percent said they favor it, compared to 22 percent of Republicans.
Democrats are also more likely to be willing to pay for the plan 58 percent said they would pay more, while just 11 percent of Republicans agree.
Interestingly, nearly 30 percent of voters ages 65 and over would pay more to send students to community college tuition-free.
Rasmussen also found that 32 percent of voters, and half of Democrats, believe the government should make college tuition-free for every student who wants to attend, while 57 percent disagree.
Nearly four in 10 voters, 38 percent, think the federal government has a responsibility to make sure that more Americans go to college, but 54 percent overall and 80 percent of Republicans said that is not a job for the government.
Americans generally have serious reservations about the nation's colleges. Just 28 percent of Rasmussen respondents think most college graduates have the skills needed to enter the workforce.
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And busting your ass to stay at the top of your class to EARN not having to repay that loan, doesn't build character also ?? Working hard to avoid having to carry that debt forward isn't being fiscally responsible ??
That says it all. Good post.
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Targeting your education to cover your passions always succeeds...

Define your passion in life. Get a good education in that pursuit. Find any entry position in that field and don't worry about what you get paid.

In time...you'll own the business. Along the way...the word "work" will never occur to you.........
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Like myself find something you love to do, and you will never work a day in your life.
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And busting your ass to stay at the top of your class to EARN not having to repay that loan, doesn't build character also ?? Working hard to avoid having to carry that debt forward isn't being fiscally responsible ??
No. 1 you don't get work experience, you feel entitled for a free ride. Those in the top of their class are the ones most likely to get a job and repay the loan.

while those that are stuck with the loans are the ones that default.

I will tell you what builds character.. work you way through college..

So what if you are the top in your class in psychology? you don't have a job when you get out..
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