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Old May 13th, 2015, 01:18 PM   #1
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Here’s What Would Actually Happen If Rand Paul Eliminated The Department Of Education

Here's What Would Actually Happen If Rand Paul Eliminated The Department Of Education | ThinkProgress

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There wouldn’t be any oversight over states when they break civil rights laws.

“The department makes sure that money goes through those programs to get through to the places that need it, and without the department there’s no way to actually administer the hundreds of programs that are funded through the department,” said Scott Sargrad, director of standards and accountability for education policy at the Center for American Progress and former deputy assistant secretary for policy and strategic initiatives in the Office of Elementary and Secondary Education at the U.S. Department of Education.

“The role of the federal government is to make sure the states follow the law. There needs to be a body that takes care of that, because a lot of there are still places that are not complying with the law or following the rules and regulations,” he said.

Control of schools belongs mostly to state governments, which control education budgets for public school districts and universities. Common Core standards, which have often been misrepresented as a curriculum mandated by the federal government, are simply standards adopted by the states, which are maintained by the National Governors Association and Council of Chief State School Officers.

Yet, there is a perception that the federal government has “taken over” public schools due to the implementation of new teacher evaluation models, Common Core standards and new methods of testing, said Max Marchitello, policy analyst for pre-K education policy at the Center for American Progress.

“All of these things are happening at once, so we probably should have predicted this kind of general resistance to that change. It seems like an easy bully to point to, to say the federal government is pushing this,” Marchitello said. “Lamar Alexander said that we need to get rid of the ‘national school board,’ so Rand Paul is just taking that critique to the next level, and saying we need to purge ourselves of this oversight and let the states do what they want to do.”

The office of elementary and secondary education oversees quality of education in said schools throughout the country through School Support and Rural Education, Impact Aid Programs, the Office of Early Learning and many other programs. The Early Childhood Educator Professional Development Program prepares disadvantaged children in low-income areas by working to sharpen the skills of teachers in their communities.

There wouldn’t be a department to check on rampant inequality between low-income school districts and wealthy districts.

If the Department of Education were to be abolished, any oversight to protect disadvantaged children from receiving a sub-par education would go to the states, and historically, the states have proven they’re not capable of handling that responsibility, Marchitello said.

“If you look at the last 50 years, or all of history, of state behaviors and rampant inequity at the state level in U.S. Supreme Court cases, it’s reasonable to think you’d see divestment from underserved communities, in favor of either saving money or to redirecting funds to places with more political clout and wealth,” Marchitello said.
In Maine, they'd probably stop mandatory education at age 6 and make the children go to work for corporations at age 7.

Paul LePage Pushing To Loosen Maine's Child Labor Laws In 2014

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Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) will continue his push to loosen the state's child labor laws in the new year, arguing that 12-year-old children should not be restricted from working and learning life skills.

Currently, children in Maine younger than 16 who want to work must be enrolled in school, be passing a majority of their courses and obtain a work permit before starting a job. School-age children get those permits from a local school superintendent, and from there, the paperwork is sent to the Department of Labor.

According to the Bangor Daily News, LePage wants to change that requirement so that students can bypass the superintendent during the summer months and go straight to the Department of Labor, quickening the process.

As the Bangor Daily News notes, "The initiative falls short of LePage’s stated desire to lower the legal working age to 12, but reprises previous unsuccessful attempts to make it easier for Mainers younger than 16 to earn a paycheck."
OMG...some "pro-life"
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Old May 13th, 2015, 01:20 PM   #2
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I assume that if the Department of Education was eliminated, the SAT scores would rise to where they were before the department was created, which is higher than they have been since it was created.
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Amazing how we built a nation without a federal Dep't of Education.




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Amazing how we built a nation without a federal Dep't of Education.



But it was only when we developed NATIONAL standards for all schools that we beat China and Russia and every other nation in educational rankings. Now, we can't squeeze out of being ranked in the 30's position.
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But it was only when we developed NATIONAL standards for all schools that we beat China and Russia and every other nation in educational rankings. Now, we can't squeeze out of being ranked in the 30's position.
How does that work out considering the last time the U.S. was the best educated country in the world was in the 1960s and early 1970s.
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Getting a work permit from the school is just nutzo! Limiting the hours a kid in school is a good thing during school months. Can't kids just drop out @ 16 if they want?
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How does that work out considering the last time the U.S. was the best educated country in the world was in the 1960s and early 1970s.
Yep, and at that time no NATIONAL standards for all schools existed.

None.

And in concert with the rise in teachers' strikes of the 70s and 80s and "tenure" did the quality of education begin a slow slide downwards.
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Yep, and at that time no NATIONAL standards for all schools existed.

None.

And in concert with the rise in teachers' strikes of the 70s and 80s and "tenure" did the quality of education begin a slow slide downwards.
Add to that since 1960 school administrators have increased by a 7 to 1 ratio to students. That is where the bulk of the money goes.
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