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Old September 14th, 2015, 03:25 PM   #61
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A man who doesn't understand or believe a woman when she says no is a rapist. That's not to grey or hard to understand
Sure it is. It's hard for men all over the world to understand. Hence, the training being done to put the burden on the man in the relationship. He can overpower. He is responsible for honoring the woman's wishes and understanding what those wishes are. Women are tried as whores on the time when they bring rape charges to court.
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Old September 14th, 2015, 03:37 PM   #62
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Pro-choice doesn't have a limit in weeks. Pro-choice says the woman gets to decide. YOU say she can't decide after week 16 of the pregnancy. That's anti-choice.

Nope. Neither high nor drunk. But you, on the other hand, are so defensive, I think you've supported my stand on your lack of respect about women. Your screams indicate you really ARE of the opinion women were put on earth to both serve and please men.
once a baby can live out of the womb (approx. 24 weeks) yes, I consider abortion murder. that is a feeling baby that if born will breath, cry, eat, suck on a pacifier, know it's mother by smell and voice. it will probably have quite a few medical problems at first but most survive with good medical care. if the mother hasn't made up her mind by that time if she wants an abortion or not--too bad, there's always adoption.
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once a baby can live out of the womb (approx. 24 weeks) yes, I consider abortion murder. that is a feeling baby that if born will breath, cry, eat, suck on a pacifier, know it's mother by smell and voice. it will probably have quite a few medical problems at first but most survive with good medical care. if the mother hasn't made up her mind by that time if she wants an abortion or not--too bad, there's always adoption.
Babies can't live outside the womb at 24 weeks. They need oxygen, incubators, IVs. That's sustaining. And you ARE not pro-choice. you think a woman should HAVE to bear all pregnancies WHILE the government cuts off funds for her and her children. You're just denying what is written in your comments. You think women are just sexual breeder cows. That they have NO human rights to decide their lives.
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Babies can't live outside the womb at 24 weeks. They need oxygen, incubators, IVs. That's sustaining. And you ARE not pro-choice. you think a woman should HAVE to bear all pregnancies WHILE the government cuts off funds for her and her children. You're just denying what is written in your comments. You think women are just sexual breeder cows. That they have NO human rights to decide their lives.
I give up, you are just retarded.
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Old September 14th, 2015, 03:45 PM   #65
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I give up, you are just retarded.
Scan this please, kbear. Neurodevelopmental, Health, and Family Outcomes for Infants Born Preterm - Preterm Birth - NCBI Bookshelf
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Sure it is. It's hard for men all over the world to understand. Hence, the training being done to put the burden on the man in the relationship. He can overpower. He is responsible for honoring the woman's wishes and understanding what those wishes are. Women are tried as whores on the time when they bring rape charges to court.
I agree with you. I just don't agree with the statement that if a woman has been drinking every time she has sex then its rape. Or,its rape if its with a man. What if its a lesbian she has sex with? Is that rape? The statement is very clear that they believe if a woman has been drinking she is unable to give consent therefore its rape. I call bullshit on that
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Babies can't live outside the womb at 24 weeks. They need oxygen, incubators, IVs. That's sustaining. And you ARE not pro-choice. you think a woman should HAVE to bear all pregnancies WHILE the government cuts off funds for her and her children. You're just denying what is written in your comments. You think women are just sexual breeder cows. That they have NO human rights to decide their lives.
Maybe women need to stop having babies they don't want.
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I give up because he keeps insisting I'm not pro-choice. I am-- within the legal age limits and those age limits are there for a reason. I worked pediatrics, labor and delivery and newborn nursery for many years. I know the challenges these babies face but many do survive. I cannot condone murdering a 3rd trimester baby just because the mother couldn't make up her mind in the first or early 2nd trimester. you do realize many of these late term aborted babies are born alive and then murdered by scum like "dr." Gosnell??? or the dr. uses a scalpel and shoves it into the base of the baby's skull to sever the spinal cord??? should something that barbaric be legal?? do you think the baby doesn't feel that if it's botched??

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I give up because he keeps insisting I'm not pro-choice. I am-- within the legal age limits and those age limits are there for a reason. I worked pediatrics, labor and delivery and newborn nursery for many years. I know the challenges these babies face but many do survive. I cannot condone murdering a 3rd trimester baby just because the mother couldn't make up her mind in the first or early 2nd trimester. you do realize many of these late term aborted babies are born alive and then murdered by scum like "dr." Gosnell??? or the dr. uses a scalpel and shoves it into the base of the baby's skull to sever the spinal cord??? should something that barbaric be legal?? do you think the baby doesn't feel that if it's botched??
That's eminently barbaric.
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Women know how to say no. Men don't believe they are saying no to them. Another "women are just good for sex toys" mentality. Go figure.
"Men" is just too broad a brush, and the "men" of whom you speak are far, far from a majority or even a significant minority.

Or gee, maybe it's that I've spent my entire life around pussy-whipped wimps who wouldn't think of sexually abusing a woman even if she's asking for it, and drunk. **sarcasm**
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