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Old September 8th, 2016, 08:15 AM   #61
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Does that mean something amongst you Hitlerites? I suppose English is still comparatively new to you, but when you quack like a duck it just sounds duck to me.

Socialism, Altkampfer, is not about Utopias but about giving democratic power to the vast working majority, and removing the mass-killing thieves you represent.
Democratic power in Socialism? Oh, your talking about Democratic Socialism. I see. That is the new great thing that you came up with to try to distance it from the tried and tested Socialism. So, tell me. You believe in Democratic Socialism. So, do you believe all business should be stolen from their owners and given to the workers? In other works mandate all business to become co-ops? If so, and this happens, what is your great Socialist plan for replacing all the 401k's and IRA's and pensions that our currently funded from the capitalist system? I am sure for a really smart Socialist like you these are some very easy questions. I know I know, you would rather call me a hitlerite and scream some gibberish about right winger. I just thought it would be fun to see if you have any intelligence at all. I am sure you do not. But lets find out anyway
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Democratic power in Socialism? Oh, your talking about Democratic Socialism. I see. That is the new great thing that you came up with to try to distance it from the tried and tested Socialism. So, tell me. You believe in Democratic Socialism. So, do you believe all business should be stolen from their owners and given to the workers? In other works mandate all business to become co-ops? If so, and this happens, what is your great Socialist plan for replacing all the 401k's and IRA's and pensions that our currently funded from the capitalist system? I am sure for a really smart Socialist like you these are some very easy questions. I know I know, you would rather call me a hitlerite and scream some gibberish about right winger. I just thought it would be fun to see if you have any intelligence at all. I am sure you do not. But lets find out anyway
If you knew anything about the matter you'd know it is what socialists have always believed in. Businesses, as you know, depend on profits stolen from those who create the goods. They are very easy questions, Alkampfer, but I'm afraid you have a very, very small mind, and a total ignorance of history other than that peddled by Hitler, McCarthy and Trump. Obviously, if you abolish capitalism, you are hugely richer and can afford anything you want, by democratic decision. Now go away, read something and GROW UP!

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because they are paid and funded by government salaries and/or grants.
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If you knew anything about the matter you'd know it is what socialists have always believed in. Businesses, as you know, depend on profits stolen from those who create the goods. They are very easy questions, Alkampfer, but I'm afraid you have a very, very small mind, and a total ignorance of history other than that peddled by Hitler, McCarthy and Trump. Obviously, if you abolish capitalism, you are hugely richer and can afford anything you want, by democratic decision. No go away, read something and GROW UP!
Ah yes, Communism raises it's ugly head yet again.
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If you knew anything about the matter you'd know it is what socialists have always believed in. Businesses, as you know, depend on profits stolen from those who create the goods. They are very easy questions, Alkampfer, but I'm afraid you have a very, very small mind, and a total ignorance of history other than that peddled by Hitler, McCarthy and Trump. Obviously, if you abolish capitalism, you are hugely richer and can afford anything you want, by democratic decision. No go away, read something and GROW UP!
Thanks for proving me right. You are not capable of justifying your position. You can not qualify your statements concerning why Socialism is better than Capitalism. I am sorry but the mere fact of you making a statement as fact is not acceptable. I understand you are probably some leftard elitist who sees themselves as a lord over peasants. That will not suffice with me. Either you are wiling to debate the merits of Socialism over Capitalism with me and be able to qualify your statements or you are unable to. I suspect you lack the intelligence to be able to seriously champion Socialism in any form of a debate. But, the challenge is out there anytime you feel like it
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Democratic power in Socialism? Oh, your talking about Democratic Socialism. I see. That is the new great thing that you came up with to try to distance it from the tried and tested Socialism. So, tell me. You believe in Democratic Socialism. So, do you believe all business should be stolen from their owners and given to the workers? In other works mandate all business to become co-ops? If so, and this happens, what is your great Socialist plan for replacing all the 401k's and IRA's and pensions that our currently funded from the capitalist system? I am sure for a really smart Socialist like you these are some very easy questions. I know I know, you would rather call me a hitlerite and scream some gibberish about right winger. I just thought it would be fun to see if you have any intelligence at all. I am sure you do not. But lets find out anyway
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If you knew anything about the matter you'd know it is what socialists have always believed in. Businesses, as you know, depend on profits stolen from those who create the goods. They are very easy questions, Alkampfer, but I'm afraid you have a very, very small mind, and a total ignorance of history other than that peddled by Hitler, McCarthy and Trump. Obviously, if you abolish capitalism, you are hugely richer and can afford anything you want, by democratic decision. No go away, read something and GROW UP!


in other words...no.


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Thanks for proving me right. You are not capable of justifying your position. You can not qualify your statements concerning why Socialism is better than Capitalism. I am sorry but the mere fact of you making a statement as fact is not acceptable. I understand you are probably some leftard elitist who sees themselves as a lord over peasants. That will not suffice with me. Either you are wiling to debate the merits of Socialism over Capitalism with me and be able to qualify your statements or you are unable to. I suspect you lack the intelligence to be able to seriously champion Socialism in any form of a debate. But, the challenge is out there anytime you feel like it
has anyone actually addressed that?

no, i don't think so. RNG has in his vague, "everything has degrees" theory. the rest just jump thread and spout the same nonsense someplace else.
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has anyone actually addressed that?

no, i don't think so. RNG has in his vague, "everything has degrees" theory. the rest just jump thread and spout the same nonsense someplace else.
Yeah I know. Then there was the good old days of road signs and candy bars. That was the weirdest socialism theory ever. If the government builds it or pays for it then its socialism. Talk about changing definitions to get to that.
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Ah yes, Communism raises it's ugly head yet again.
Pissed as a newt yet again. Stand up and see if you can talk.
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Thanks for proving me right. You are not capable of justifying your position. You can not qualify your statements concerning why Socialism is better than Capitalism. I am sorry but the mere fact of you making a statement as fact is not acceptable. I understand you are probably some leftard elitist who sees themselves as a lord over peasants. That will not suffice with me. Either you are wiling to debate the merits of Socialism over Capitalism with me and be able to qualify your statements or you are unable to. I suspect you lack the intelligence to be able to seriously champion Socialism in any form of a debate. But, the challenge is out there anytime you feel like it
What position, you clown? Socialism is obviously better than capitalism because it gives working people their lives and their countries back and puts you thieving scoundrels and liars in educational establishments where you can learn what humanity is like. No socialist is lord of anything, you capitalist clown - socialism is democracy. The only arguments for capitalism are the arguments for living in caves - it makes better things possible. I don't think you can possibly be human since you keep quacking like a duck. I imagine since you are an extreme-right yank nutter you equate socialism with the capitalist state. Read some history and sober up! Tell me please what you 'think' socialism to be.
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