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Sabcat December 9th, 2015 10:38 AM

Why do many educators favor socialism?
 
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Academics tend to be highly intelligent people. Given their leftward leanings, one might be tempted to infer from this that more intelligent people tend to favor socialism. However, this conclusion suffers from what empirical researchers call "sample selection bias." Intelligent people hold a variety of views. Some are lovers of liberty, defenders of property, and supporters of the "natural order" i.e., defenders of the market. Others are reformers, wanting to remake the world according to their own visions of the ideal society.

Hayek argues that exceptionally intelligent people who favor the market tend to find opportunities for professional and financial success outside the Academy (i.e., in the business or professional world). Those who are highly intelligent but ill-disposed toward the market are more likely to choose an academic career. For this reason, the universities come to be filled with those intellectuals who were favorably disposed toward socialism from the beginning.

This also leads to the phenomenon that academics don't know much about how markets work, since they have so little experience with them, living as they do in their subsidized ivory towers and protected by academic tenure. As Joseph Schumpeter explained in Capitalism, Socialism, and Democracy, it is "the absence of direct responsibility for practical affairs" that distinguishes the academic intellectual from others "who wield the power of the spoken and the written word." This absence of direct responsibility leads to a corresponding absence of first-hand knowledge of practical affairs. The critical attitude of the intellectual arises, says Schumpeter, "no less from the intellectual's situation as an onlooker in most cases also as an outsider than from the fact that his main chance of asserting himself lies in his actual or potential nuisance value."3

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Sabcat December 9th, 2015 10:40 AM

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To answer, we must realize first that academics receive many direct benefits from the welfare state, and that these benefits have increased over time.

Excluding student financial aid, public universities receive about 50 percent of their funding from federal and state governments, dwarfing the 18 percent they receive from tuition and fees. Even "private" universities like Stanford or Harvard receive around 20 percent of their budgets from federal grants and contracts.4 If you include student financial aid, that figure rises to almost 50 percent. According to the US Department of Education, about a third of all students at public, 4-year colleges and universities, and half the students at private colleges and universities, receive financial aid from the federal government.

In this sense, the most dramatic example of "corporate welfare" in the US is the GI Bill, which subsidized the academic sector, bloating it far beyond the level the market would have provided. The GI Bill, signed by President Roosevelt in 1944 to send returning soldiers to colleges and universities, cost taxpayers $14.5 billion between 1944 and 1956.5 Federal spending on the latest version, the Montgomery GI Bill, is projected at $3.2 billion in 2006 alone.

To see why this government aid is so important to the higher education establishment, we need only stop to consider for a moment what academics would do in a purely free society. The fact is that most academics simply aren't that important. In a free society, there would be far fewer of them than there are today. Their public visibility would no doubt be quite low. Most would be poorly paid. Though some would be engaged in scholarly research, the vast majority would be teachers. Their job would be to pass the collective wisdom of the ages along to the next generation.

In all likelihood, there would also be far fewer students. Some students would attend traditional colleges and universities, but many more students would attend technical and vocational schools, where their instructors would be men and women with practical knowledge.

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kbear December 9th, 2015 10:53 AM

because they are liberals who went to liberal schools...

Sabcat December 15th, 2015 06:42 PM

It's no wonder why so many young people are "graduating" college completely lost.

TNVolunteer73 December 15th, 2015 06:56 PM

Because they are paid and funded by Government salaries and/or Grants.

Athena December 20th, 2015 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabcat (Post 886175)
https://mises.org/library/why-intell...port-socialism


Academics tend to be highly intelligent people. Given their leftward leanings, one might be tempted to infer from this that more intelligent people tend to favor socialism. However, this conclusion suffers from what empirical researchers call "sample selection bias." Intelligent people hold a variety of views. Some are lovers of liberty, defenders of property, and supporters of the "natural order" i.e., defenders of the market. Others are reformers, wanting to remake the world according to their own visions of the ideal society.

Hayek argues that exceptionally intelligent people who favor the market tend to find opportunities for professional and financial success outside the Academy (i.e., in the business or professional world). Those who are highly intelligent but ill-disposed toward the market are more likely to choose an academic career. For this reason, the universities come to be filled with those intellectuals who were favorably disposed toward socialism from the beginning.

This also leads to the phenomenon that academics don't know much about how markets work, since they have so little experience with them, living as they do in their subsidized ivory towers and protected by academic tenure. As Joseph Schumpeter explained in Capitalism, Socialism, and Democracy, it is "the absence of direct responsibility for practical affairs" that distinguishes the academic intellectual from others "who wield the power of the spoken and the written word." This absence of direct responsibility leads to a corresponding absence of first-hand knowledge of practical affairs. The critical attitude of the intellectual arises, says Schumpeter, "no less from the intellectual's situation as an onlooker in most cases also as an outsider than from the fact that his main chance of asserting himself lies in his actual or potential nuisance value."3

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Academics read, how about you? What economic books have you read?

Have you Turchin's explanation of why good times lead to bad times, and bad times lead to good times. His book explaining this is titled "War, and Peace, and War". I like to point out, that unlike all the history before, we are running out of land and have exhausted most our resources. It is more likely we will have a mass off in the future than see the growth of prosperity we had, following the second world war.

Twisted Sister December 20th, 2015 10:07 PM

Having been an educator before, I did my best to help the weak students and most of the time I succeeded. The material was above this student and had to kick him out of my class after pointing out the correct answers and he still picked the wrong answers which got him kicked out of the Navy. The material was way over his head.

LongWinded December 21st, 2015 02:08 AM

ALL educators do. Some favor socialism for the rich, like the republicans, and others favor socialism for the poor, like the democrats.

Sabcat December 21st, 2015 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LongWinded (Post 890699)
ALL educators do. Some favor socialism for the rich, like the republicans, and others favor socialism for the poor, like the democrats.

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TNVolunteer73 December 21st, 2015 11:52 AM

Most of them are Government employees.


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