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Old January 10th, 2018, 12:11 PM   #131
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Yea but I'm terrible at math and can only do good on a math test if it's multiple choice.
Then you really can't do math. Multiple choice should IMHO, be limited to vocabulary, history, and reading comp.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 12:18 PM   #132
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So your definition of "indoctrination" is teaching 1) Guns are our friends and let's have a "bring a friend to school" day. 2) Hugs are appropriate at all times and for all people, regardless of what the "hugee" thinks. 3) Global warming is a hoax so ignore the science.

But mostly you're upset because you are a RW political wonk and unable to grasp the concept that OTHERS don't agree with you??
Clara, can't you see that it's you who refuse to see anything good or reasonable in any argument put forth by a conservative/right wing person or organization. You my dear are a political bigot.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 12:22 PM   #133
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Then you really can't do math. Multiple choice should IMHO, be limited to vocabulary, history, and reading comp.
I know lol. Math isn't my strong suit, but writing definitely is. Which goes back to what I said about there being different kinds of intelligence, and why the current approach to education and standardized testing is flawed.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 12:25 PM   #134
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I see there is a problem understanding my justification for using the word "retarded". Being retarded is just a fact of life and nothing is wrong with the word. What is wrong is the spirit of the person who uses the word to hurt others, but if a teacher is trying to reassure a parent a child will do well with some extra help, the word "retarded" is an accurate word to use. To be technically correct we might say your child needs to be evaluated for- and then there is a long list of possible labels. I think this labeling of children has some serious drawbacks!

Here is my logic. Identifying the word as the problem, does not resolve the problem. The problem is human nature, not the word. Unless you are speaking a foreign language and meant to tell a girl "I think you are pretty" but instead said "I think you are a pig" because your friend gave you the wrong word.

Can we talk more about nihilism? I think our technological society has become nihilistic, and education that focuses on preparing children for a technological society with unknown values is failing to prepare them for life.
Children and adults will say mean things. Something is wrong with their spirit and that is what needs correcting. When we correctly identify problems, we can resolve them.
Yes, but semantics are still a thing. Even if the word itself isn't the problem, the word is a part of the problem.

Ppl are generally assholes who don't respect ppl's feelings.

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Old January 10th, 2018, 12:28 PM   #135
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If you make a word "socially unacceptable" one will be created to take its place. I remember in like 4th grade i contextually replaced "fuck you" w/ "thank you" it cought on by the end of the quarter we were not allowed to thank each other in class. Kids now call the idiots "internet explorer" because it is slow and obsolete.

The language police cannot win because people need to tell each other to fuck off. Stupid people get stupid prizes.

This is a major problem w/ millennials. Nobody has ever punched them in the face, told them they were stupid. They were not allowed to fail. Now they are 30 and in culture shock.

The kids in school have more fun triggering the teachers than fellow students. Many of them are very fragile.
If you treat ppl with disrespect you're an asshole. Plain and simple. Nobody likes assholes, even though it is your choice to be one.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 12:31 PM   #136
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I totally disagree with you on the use of retarded. It has a long history of being used as an insult, not a clinical description. I'd say from where I stand, negro is way less of an insult than retarded. But we don't use that either.

What is wrong with "special needs"? Retarded is not a one size fits all term and neither is special needs. But so what. Retarded has a lot of bad stuff firmly attached to it.
Because ppl actively choose to be uncivil and not have basic human decency, instead of understanding that there are certain sensitivities to things.

As someone with a disability, I'd be pretty upset if someone called me retarded with the intent of disrespecting me.
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Clara, can't you see that it's you who refuse to see anything good or reasonable in any argument put forth by a conservative/right wing person or organization. You my dear are a political bigot.


AND YOU, my dear, are welcome to your opinion---just as I am.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 02:45 PM   #138
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If you treat ppl with disrespect you're an asshole. Plain and simple. Nobody likes assholes, even though it is your choice to be one.
If you dont tell people when they do stupid shit they will continue to do stupid things but none of that has anything to do w/ the fact that just by trying to put a few words into a dark room and telling people they are forbidden from using them will not save the hypersensitive from having their precious little feelings hurt.

Naughty words is one of the most retarded concepts that is somehow still part of our culture.
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Because ppl actively choose to be uncivil and not have basic human decency, instead of understanding that there are certain sensitivities to things.

As someone with a disability, I'd be pretty upset if someone called me retarded with the intent of disrespecting me.
That would be your choice.
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If you dont tell people when they do stupid shit they will continue to do stupid things but none of that has anything to do w/ the fact that just by trying to put a few words into a dark room and telling people they are forbidden from using them will not save the hypersensitive from having their precious little feelings hurt.

Naughty words is one of the most retarded concepts that is somehow still part of our culture.
Insulting and disrespecting ppl by calling them names leaves you with very few friends, and that has nothing to do with how "sensitive" anyone is. Just with you being an asshole.

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That would be your choice.
It doesn't matter. If one doesn't like being called that then it's on you as a human being to not call them that. Otherwise, you're just an asshole.

If you treat ppl like shit, then you shouldn't be upset when ppl treat you like shit.
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