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Old March 5th, 2018, 05:34 PM   #91
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A military recruiter told me that being home schooled prevents you from joining the armed forces. They want a minimum of a public high school degree. The military is a cross section of the public and that is a good idea. The military recruiter told me this on another forum a couple of years ago.
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A military recruiter told me that being home schooled prevents you from joining the armed forces. They want a minimum of a public high school degree. The military is a cross section of the public and that is a good idea. The military recruiter told me this on another forum a couple of years ago.

You get a 'diploma' now days. There are on line exams that are required.
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A military recruiter told me that being home schooled prevents you from joining the armed forces. They want a minimum of a public high school degree. The military is a cross section of the public and that is a good idea. The military recruiter told me this on another forum a couple of years ago.
What a wonderful way to keep a son out of the military. And someone was arguing our education is not about the military-industrial complex. You need a diploma to be recruited. And what is the purpose of education?

We need to take back our freedom and get the beast off our backs. Freedom is not living with the merit system that prevents people from participating in society unless they have the government approved education to qualify for participation. This is relatively new, a change within my lifetime and it is what caused college cost to spin out of control. Now that degree is like medicine you must have to live. I think there are some serious negatives to this.

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Old March 27th, 2018, 10:47 PM   #95
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Second, a college education is about much more than getting a degree. It's about social skills. It's about life-long learning. It's about curiosity. It's about different cultures, social mores, lifestyles, ambition, competition, being challenged. It's about failure AND success--deadlines and requirements. It's about growing up and finding a passion.
The benefits of education at any level are intangible and immeasurable.
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Honestly, a lot of what you said are essentially meaningless platitudes in my mind. We can go down the list if you like(?) Lets start with 'social skills':

(A) The 'social skills' requisite to conform to the group mindset? Even if that group is objectively walking off a cliff or otherwise entrapping one's mind to a highly limited domain?
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Old March 28th, 2018, 05:15 AM   #96
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Honestly, a lot of what you said are essentially meaningless platitudes in my mind. We can go down the list if you like(?) Lets start with 'social skills':

(A) The 'social skills' requisite to conform to the group mindset? Even if that group is objectively walking off a cliff or otherwise entrapping one's mind to a highly limited domain?
It is my understanding we replaced education for independent thinking with "group think".

We had education for good moral judgment, based on logic and reason, but in 1958 when we replaced the past education with education for technology, training for morals was left to the church and this was the beginning of the end.

Christianity without education for good moral judgment is a disaster and so is science without education for good moral judgment a disaster.
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It is my understanding we replaced education for independent thinking with "group think".

We had education for good moral judgment, based on logic and reason, but in 1958 when we replaced the past education with education for technology, training for morals was left to the church and this was the beginning of the end.

Christianity without education for good moral judgment is a disaster and so is science without education for good moral judgment a disaster.
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I am not able to competently speak about the past (you discussed), however I certainly agree with your assessment of modern 'group think'.
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Old April 25th, 2018, 06:51 AM   #98
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Higher Education Should Be FREE!

The Government already provides pretty substantial student aid programs in which students can potentially go to College for free or a limited cost. Federal Grant programs are offered at around nearly $6000 per year, state grant programs with eligibility for 6 years, although they vary by state, are typically between $1000-$4000 per year with eligibility for 6 years, Stafford Loans go up to $60,000 for undergraduates disbursed with $12,500 per year basis, Perkins Loans for those with extreme need are several thousand per year, etc. etc.

Then, the average student is eligible for about $48,000 in grants (i.e. does not have to be paid back--"free money"), and $60,000 in low interest rate loans, which is a figure of $108,000 for undergraduate study alone--with more offered for graduate school students and those with demonstration of extreme financial need. If played right, one can attend a big state school program (e.g. like UCLA, Michigan, Ohio State, University of Florida, etc.) essentially free of cost or with limited low interest loans that one is allowed forgiveness on. Considering this, it seems that the 'average' person is very much unaware of the (rather generous) offers that the government already has guaranteed for them. One of the major issues, as I see it, is the dependency vs. independency status which links a person to their parents until they turn 24 years old. If this would change to 18 years old, then people would have a lot of opportunity and control over their lives with a potentially very bright future easily available--if planned and used in a sensible manner.
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