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Old June 16th, 2017, 06:04 PM   #31
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I got through college and received three degrees basically for free.

Don't be so pouty and petulant that you weren't smart enough to get scholarships and fellowships.

Fellowships paid me to receive two Masters degrees!
Actually I am brilliant, not in a school setting though, but I do have the mind of an engineer, which I use to trouble shoot problems all the time. Never needed a degree to do it. I don't fault those who do get a higher education, but the American tax payer need not pay for it. Have a nice weekend
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Almost every single time we get this push back from the RW about education it boils down to resentment. "I worked hard for my money." "I didn't get the chance." "I shouldn't have to pay for someone else." Blah blah.....
First of all, this country is rife with examples of paying for others--for the good of the nation. Property taxes for public education, even when we don't have school aged children. Public libraries. Parks. Paved roads. Healthcare.
The attitude seems to be "I pay my taxes so it's not fair that OTHERS are cheating me and not paying their fair share." This is a very narrow view and not in our nation's best interest.

Second, a college education is about much more than getting a degree. It's about social skills. It's about life-long learning. It's about curiosity. It's about different cultures, social mores, lifestyles, ambition, competition, being challenged. It's about failure AND success--deadlines and requirements. It's about growing up and finding a passion.
The benefits of education at any level are intangible and immeasurable.

An uneducated country is a country without a strong military. In fact, it's a threat to our national security. An uneducated country is a country without exceptional leaders, innovators, entrepreneurs, researchers, dreamers, and teachers who ultimately guide/mentor all other professions. There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for a country as wealthy as the U.S. to downplay the importance of education.
No one resents you for your education, that is silly talk, good for you that was your path. Paying for infrastructure is a necessity, paying for another persons child to go to college, no thank you. Colleges are no longer higher learning centers, they are where young vulnerable minds are indoctrinated with socialism
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Way to jump right into race!!! How enlightened.


It's an economic thing not a race thing furthermore it is a states rights thing not a federal government thing. Just like healthcare. If a state wants to help out its citizens so be it. The state and the people of the state will see a direct result from the investment. The federal government should not force me to pay for the schooling for a citizen of Texas. It's easy.
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Just like it is in most other developed countries. But then, those countries don't have the same problem with useless negroes and mexicans that we have. Despite that, I think it could still be done. After all, a high school education is free. All that needs to be done is extend that to higher education. If I thought there was a snowflakes chance in hell of my ever being to afford college, I would have done better in high school.
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Bring one room school houses back where you learn the three R's. Learning the three R's gets your foot in the door.
Even one hundred years ago, upper middle class job (doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc.) had to go to college.

Using college to get ahead in your career is not a new idea.

Although it's true 100 years ago you had a better chance of advancing further than today with just a high school education.
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No one resents you for your education, that is silly talk, good for you that was your path. Paying for infrastructure is a necessity, paying for another persons child to go to college, no thank you. Colleges are no longer higher learning centers, they are where young vulnerable minds are indoctrinated with socialism


Well, THAT was predictable. WE're back to the ol' standard "colleges are indoctrinating" young people with socialist ideas. What a load of twaddle.
AND the ever faithful "colleges are no longer higher learning centers".

Colleges and universities teach the same things they taught decades ago:
English: English 1-4, American Literature, creative writing.
Math: Algebra 1-3, Geometry, Statistics.
Natural of physical science: biology, chemistry, physics.
Social Science: American History, civics, government.
Additional: comparative religion, languages

These are required. Then the student may choose electives or mainstream into their major. Most students take some kind of psychology class. They take intern positions. Marketing, technology, arts participation.....and work to pay their way.
Exactly WHERE in those required classes do you see anything about socialism..?
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No one resents you for your education, that is silly talk, good for you that was your path. Paying for infrastructure is a necessity, paying for another persons child to go to college, no thank you. Colleges are no longer higher learning centers, they are where young vulnerable minds are indoctrinated with socialism
I love how the vast majority who see sending an 18 year old (legally an adult) to college is sending "young vulnerable minds" for "indoctrination" but see sending a six year old (an age too young to differentiate fantasy from reality) to Sunday School and Vacation Bible School is just "raising them right"
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Almost every single time we get this push back from the RW about education it boils down to resentment. "I worked hard for my money." "I didn't get the chance." "I shouldn't have to pay for someone else." Blah blah.....
First of all, this country is rife with examples of paying for others--for the good of the nation. Property taxes for public education, even when we don't have school aged children. Public libraries. Parks. Paved roads. Healthcare.
The attitude seems to be "I pay my taxes so it's not fair that OTHERS are cheating me and not paying their fair share." This is a very narrow view and not in our nation's best interest.

Second, a college education is about much more than getting a degree. It's about social skills. It's about life-long learning. It's about curiosity. It's about different cultures, social mores, lifestyles, ambition, competition, being challenged. It's about failure AND success--deadlines and requirements. It's about growing up and finding a passion.
The benefits of education at any level are intangible and immeasurable.

An uneducated country is a country without a strong military. In fact, it's a threat to our national security. An uneducated country is a country without exceptional leaders, innovators, entrepreneurs, researchers, dreamers, and teachers who ultimately guide/mentor all other professions. There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for a country as wealthy as the U.S. to downplay the importance of education.


What the hell are you talking about?

A college degree will have absolutely no real value if it just becomes an extension of high school. Years ago the the kids were learning more by 8th grade than tbey are after "graduating" since the federal government has taken over the quality has fallen dramatically. A high school is now basically worthless and in reality a GED holds more value
College is for higher learning and specialization. These are things that not everone wants, needs or are cut out for. But most of all it is not the place of tbe federal government, period.

As for your silly little resentment remarks. Equality of outcome is the mantra of the progressives and the socialists. My guess is that's just your white guilt playing its part from up there in your tower.
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