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Old November 9th, 2017, 06:57 PM   #21
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but sfb sure does sound like an alt-right to me.
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Old November 9th, 2017, 07:22 PM   #22
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sfb?
Buried insult. BS Filter transposed to SFB = shit for brains.
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Old November 9th, 2017, 08:12 PM   #23
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Buried insult. BS Filter transposed to SFB = shit for brains.
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Old November 10th, 2017, 09:13 AM   #24
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Debating with regular conservatives? Sure. With the alt-right? Hell no. They are anti-Black and anti-immigrant. They're an existential threat to me and people I care about.

I can't have peaceful discussions with people who advocate "racial realism" and want to set the clocks back hundreds of years in the past. I just can't.
I do respect how you feel on the matter. At work again. I'll add further thoughts to this if i do think of them later, if at all.
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They weren't anti free speech progressives, they were anti fascist progressives, protesting a "Pro Nazi" speech, defending what the Nazis did in Charlottesville.

They have a right to speak too, and if they turn out to be louder than the pro Nazi guy, maybe the Pro Nazi guy will figure out that his speech won't be received as well on a Liberal Campus as it is at a Nazi Rally.

(This post is an example of the over the top hyperbole that the right has been using for decades, and now they melt like snowflakes when they get a taste of it)
Is there a difference between Liberalism, socialism, and the so-called, alt-right? Seems to me, there one and the same. Nazi's to one degree or the other.
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Old November 10th, 2017, 11:15 AM   #26
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Is there a difference between Liberalism, socialism, and the so-called, alt-right? Seems to me, there one and the same. Nazi's to one degree or the other.
Liberalism is (was) distinctly different from socialism. Classic American conservatism was (and still is in my opinion) built on liberal values. Now a days though nationalists, the religious and traditionalists are elbowing their way into the fold.
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Old November 10th, 2017, 11:45 AM   #27
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Is there a difference between Liberalism, socialism, and the so-called, alt-right? Seems to me, there one and the same. Nazi's to one degree or the other.
This isn't true at all. Liberalism, socialism, and the alt-right aren't the same thing at all.

The alt-right espouse Nazi ideology outright. Liberals believe in individual rights, liberty, etc. Socialists believe in common ownership of the means of production.
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This isn't true at all. Liberalism, socialism, and the alt-right aren't the same thing at all.

The alt-right espouse Nazi ideology outright. Liberals believe in individual rights, liberty, etc. Socialists believe in common ownership of the means of production.
American liberals are collectivists.


This is the divide. Individualist vs collectivist.
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Old November 10th, 2017, 05:15 PM   #29
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American liberals are collectivists.


This is the divide. Individualist vs collectivist.
American liberals are just bourgeois ppl who claim to believe in equality/progress, but really just want to feel good about themselves. The so-called divide is just two sides arguing over who's shittier than the other.

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American liberals are just bourgeois ppl who claim to believe in equality/progress, but really just want to feel good about themselves. The so-called divide is just two sides arguing over who's shittier than the other.
I do not dissagree w/ that statement at all.
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