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Old November 17th, 2017, 09:25 AM   #41
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We don't share common goals? You and me?? You do NOT want good health, housing, safety, work, friends, and family?? Exactly what DO YOU want--I mean other than a lawless society and chaos?
Wow, now there's junk of sophism! Why don't you ask him how often he beats his wife? If you want you some lawless chaos, you need look no farther than the Liberal socialist movement.
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Old November 17th, 2017, 09:48 AM   #42
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When free-speech is shut down by the act of violence, or the threat of violence, those using that tactic are by definition Nazi's. Be it far Left Liberals or the alt-right. There isn't one iota of difference between the two. Liberal ideology today, is NOT the Liberal ideology that it was founded on. Those espousing socialism had better look to history to see the outcome socialism brings. IMO, there is no logical reasoning for shutting down conservative speech's, other than promoting Liberal socialism.
That's not the definition of a Nazi. Nazis are National Socialists, remnants and ideological successors to the original ideology of Adolf Hitler and 1930s-40s Germany.

These things have actual definitions. You can't just apply them to anything you want.

And the Nazis were fascists. The only fascists here are the alt-right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right

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The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely defined group of people with far-right ideologies who reject mainstream conservatism in favor of white nationalism. White supremacist Richard Spencer initially promoted the term in 2010 in reference to a movement centered on white nationalism and did so, according to the Associated Press, to disguise overt racism, white supremacism, neo-fascism and neo-Nazism. The term drew considerable media attention and controversy during and after the 2016 United States presidential election.

Alt-right beliefs have been described as isolationist, protectionist, antisemitic and white supremacist, frequently overlapping with Neo-Nazism, nativism and Islamophobia, antifeminism, misogyny and homophobia, right-wing populism and the neoreactionary movement. The concept has further been associated with several groups such as American nationalists and monarchists, men's rights advocates and the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump.
We have just as much to worry about w/ fascism. If you weren't such a reactionary you'd see that.

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Old November 17th, 2017, 09:59 AM   #43
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Lincoln was a fascist.
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Old November 17th, 2017, 10:01 AM   #44
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That's not the definition of a Nazi. Nazis are National Socialists, remnants and ideological successors to the original ideology of Adolf Hitler and 1930s-40s Germany.

These things have actual definitions. You can't just apply them to anything you want.

And the Nazis were fascists. The only fascists here are the alt-right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right


We have just as much to worry about w/ fascism. If you weren't such a reactionary you'd see that.
When a definition applies, it applies. When the far Left uses fascist tactics to shut down free speech, they are by definition Nazi's. They are no longer Liberals by definition.
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George Washington was a Nationalist.
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Old November 17th, 2017, 10:04 AM   #46
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That's not the definition of a Nazi. Nazis are National Socialists, remnants and ideological successors to the original ideology of Adolf Hitler and 1930s-40s Germany.

These things have actual definitions. You can't just apply them to anything you want.

And the Nazis were fascists. The only fascists here are the alt-right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right


We have just as much to worry about w/ fascism. If you weren't such a reactionary you'd see that.
At least their current labeling of anything and anyone they don't like as Nazi is a break from their previous tendency to label anything and anyone they don't like as commie.
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When a definition applies, it applies. When the far Left uses fascist tactics to shut down free speech, they are by definition Nazi's. They are no longer Liberals by definition.
But they're not fascists, therefore the label does not apply. They're mostly Marxists and anarchists. These things have actual fucking definitions.

Like holy shit.
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Sorry, not everybody wants to live in Ancapistan lol.
Ancapistan?
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Ancapistan?
That's the kind of society Sabcat wants lol. Basically the drug trade and Final Fantasy 7 mixed.


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But they're not fascists, therefore the label does not apply. They're mostly Marxists and anarchists. These things have actual fucking definitions.

Like holy shit.
Marxism = An emotionally charged term used to refer to extreme radicals or revolutionaries.
Fascist = A political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)

There are the definitions. Do they apply to Liberal Progressives and the alt-right?
Like, holy cow, wake the hell up!
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