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Old November 17th, 2017, 11:32 AM   #61
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Old November 17th, 2017, 11:32 AM   #62
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The antifa are mostly Marxists, and the alt-right are mostly fascists so yes they do apply.

Again. These things have definitions, and it is intellectually dishonest to just apply the term "Nazi" to everyone you don't like.
I apply them only to those who use them. I first registered as a Democrat when the Democratic Party was representing the people (workers), who had long been ignored. I left the Democrats when they stopped representing the legal citizen-workers and became more interested in building their base with legal immigrants and illegal workers that our citizens have to compete with for jobs. Until recently, the GOP offered no recourse until Trump. The GOP "establishment" is opposed to Trump. We are now seeing the Progressives and alt-right using tactics that can only be defined as Nazi in nature to move toward socialism.
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I apply them only to those who use them. I first registered as a Democrat when the Democratic Party was representing the people (workers), who had long been ignored. I left the Democrats when they stopped representing the legal citizen-workers and became more interested in building their base with legal immigrants and illegal workers that our citizens have to compete with for jobs. Until recently, the GOP offered no recourse until Trump. The GOP "establishment" is opposed to Trump. We are now seeing the Progressives and alt-right using tactics that can only be defined as Nazi in nature to move toward socialism.
So basically White identity politics? Got it.
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Even if it is at the extent of legitimizing the alt-Right?
Of course not. Demonstrating is one thing, physical violence is another.
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Old November 17th, 2017, 11:51 AM   #65
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So basically White identity politics? Got it.
What is your definition of White identity politics? Why did you feel the need to insert a form of racism into the discussion? The overall intent is to represent the "legal citizens workers" of this country and their families. If by White identity politics your referring to stopping massive legal immigration and deporting illegal aliens, than by all means, call me a supporter of White identity politics. I'll support most anything that benefits our citizens.
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Good God. My brain can't handle this much ideology. Here bro, I'll literally give you the basic Google definitions. You're the one who needs to wake up lmao.
Both require the state to take control of the means of production. Fascism has the illusion of a market economy whereas socialism does not. the problem with both is the allocation of resorces.
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That's the kind of society Sabcat wants lol. Basically the drug trade and Final Fantasy 7 mixed.

I do not believe that the government is the answer to our problems but the one common and constant factor in societies issues. Look back in history each and every time the state takes more power it takes it from the people.

Classical liberalism is the best compromise that society has come up w/ in recorded history and the way the states were originally designed was the best working example of those theories.
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So basically White identity politics? Got it.
Why is white identity politics negitive but all of the other forms of identity politics not ony acceptable by leftists but celebrated?
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Why is white identity politics negitive but all of the other forms of identity politics not ony acceptable by leftists but celebrated?
Because all of those other kinds came as a result of White identity politics.

Not to say that identity politics is a good thing, but you're kinda forced to do that in a society that is violent towards you.
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[QUOTE=Panther;1112508]Yes! I'm all for unrestricted freedom of speech. Makes the fools and idiots easier to spot and ignore, if need be. Then again, not everyone is troll resistant.

Also, the students protesting his speech is equally fair and should not ever be prohibited. What wasn't fair and inhibiting an individuals right was the smear campaign, the threat and the student government demanding his speech being canceled, because of what exactly? What did he do that terrified the holy living shit out of them?


First; they should have let him speak, then protest. This is a social problem and it is getting worse. The whole, "I want my way! Regardless of the outcome!" from all of these juveniles is at the least deafening. They will regret it when they are older. But that is part of the problem, they not only think they are right, they want to fight for it. And they have no idea what they are fighting for.
We should be worried about the future, because there is a horde of ignorance coming our way.
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