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Old April 5th, 2018, 11:28 AM   #71
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Not trying to hijack this thread, but just thought I'd throw this out there since we are debating salaries.

Congress: Works approximately 130 days per year. (Congress is in session.)

Salary: $174,000 which does not include free airport parking, free on-site gym for House members, healthcare plan and pension, travel paid for by taxpayers, death benefits, and a $900,000 annual allowance for a staff and office expenses.

Is congress doing a great job? 15% approval rate. But hey--let's talk about teachers.
I say send them all to the gallows and start over.

Averaged pay for american citizens. Lowest level of publicly funded healthcare, 8 year term limits. All funds and businesses placed in trust as they are in office, all banking are open to the public during term (s) and no pension. This is a public service not a career.
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Old April 5th, 2018, 12:32 PM   #72
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You mean 180 days? When you say "teachers TEACH for 7 hours" are you referring to the eye-ball-to-eye ball time? But that does not include prepping BEFORE school/after school, which would add a minimum of 2 hours and does not include tutoring, PT meetings, and required evening events?
Add all that together. Add up required classes for state certification...evenings, weekends and summers.
Prepping before school... Doesn't EVERY profession prep before they go to work. I have to you have to Auto workers have to,

Put on the PPE, make sure their tools are at hand and in working order.

Please Don't Bullshit me.. Hell even FAST FOOD WORKERS have to prep before work Wash hands, makesure their hair is up.


they have at least 1 hour a day for Prep. t hat is why they get the 1/hour free time (This does not include lunch)
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Old April 5th, 2018, 03:26 PM   #73
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Shame on you then. You apparently missed out.


How about answering the question? What tenure are you talking about?

OH THAT'S right--I forgot that you need to wait for SABCAT to reply and then you'll just repeat what he said, click "thanks" and hope you get some credit.

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Old April 5th, 2018, 03:45 PM   #74
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How about answering the question? What tenure are you talking about?

OH THAT'S right--I forgot that you need to wait for SABCAT to reply and then you'll just repeat what he said, click "thanks" and hope you get some credit.

Never mind, GuyKEKSANTACOKE. Who did I miss?
Another Liberal shows their ignorance, and RNG jumps to join the Ingoramuauzm (That is like an orgasm when ignorant people post and the thank fest begins)

Teachers Get Tenure here are the requirement for every state

https://www.ecs.org/teacher-tenure-c...ract-policies/

So once again Clara007 shows that Sabcat is better informed than she ever will be.
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Old April 5th, 2018, 04:53 PM   #75
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Another Liberal shows their ignorance, and RNG jumps to join the Ingoramuauzm (That is like an orgasm when ignorant people post and the thank fest begins)

Teachers Get Tenure here are the requirement for every state

https://www.ecs.org/teacher-tenure-c...ract-policies/

So once again Clara007 shows that Sabcat is better informed than she ever will be.


Well, aren't you a sweetie--providing cover for your little friend? Sabcat wasn't the person I was replying to. Reading comp issues again, TN??
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Old April 5th, 2018, 05:16 PM   #76
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How about answering the question? What tenure are you talking about?

OH THAT'S right--I forgot that you need to wait for SABCAT to reply and then you'll just repeat what he said, click "thanks" and hope you get some credit.

Never mind, GuyKEKSANTACOKE. Who did I miss?
what is a guykeksantacoke?


If you do not understand what tenure is I do not think I will indulge your ignorance.
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Old April 5th, 2018, 05:24 PM   #77
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Another Liberal shows their ignorance, and RNG jumps to join the Ingoramuauzm (That is like an orgasm when ignorant people post and the thank fest begins)

Teachers Get Tenure here are the requirement for every state

https://www.ecs.org/teacher-tenure-c...ract-policies/

So once again Clara007 shows that Sabcat is better informed than she ever will be.
For a moment, well maybe a dozen moments, I was real proud of you, posting a link to support your point about tenure for public school teachers. So I clicked on your link. Right off the bat:
Key Takeaways
  • Florida, North Carolina, Kansas and Idaho have chosen to repeal tenure outright, phase out tenure or remove due process provisions, though Idaho’s effort to abolish tenure was reversed by its voters.
  • Sixteen states use teachers’ performance ratings as a component of decisions to grant tenure.
  • Seven states require districts to return teachers to probationary status if their performance is rated unsatisfactory.
  • Instead of making lay-off decisions on the basis of tenure status or seniority, 11 states require that teacher performance be the primary consideration. Another state, Washington, adds this requirement in 2015-16. Ten states explicitly prohibit the use of tenure status or seniority.
Freakin' ooooops, another drive-by, C&P job based on headline only.

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Old April 5th, 2018, 05:28 PM   #78
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Well, aren't you a sweetie--providing cover for your little friend? Sabcat wasn't the person I was replying to. Reading comp issues again, TN??
As is so typical, TNV's own link proves that he is lying again. That's all he does is lie.

He either never reads his links or just prefers lying.
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For a moment, well maybe a dozen moments, I was real proud of you, posting a link to support your point about tenure for public school teachers. So I clicked on your link. Right off the bat:
Key Takeaways
  • Florida, North Carolina, Kansas and Idaho have chosen to repeal tenure outright, phase out tenure or remove due process provisions, though Idaho’s effort to abolish tenure was reversed by its voters.
  • Sixteen states use teachers’ performance ratings as a component of decisions to grant tenure.
  • Seven states require districts to return teachers to probationary status if their performance is rated unsatisfactory.
  • Instead of making lay-off decisions on the basis of tenure status or seniority, 11 states require that teacher performance be the primary consideration. Another state, Washington, adds this requirement in 2015-16. Ten states explicitly prohibit the use of tenure status or seniority.
Freakin' ooooops, another drive-by, C&P job based on headline only.

Did you enjoy your Ingoramuauzm?
So doing the math we have 35 states out of 50, with four of those not having any tenure at all, with 16 of them using performance to grant tenure (thats captain obvious). The layoff point is rather mute because art will be cut before math regardless of the tenure.
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Old April 5th, 2018, 05:48 PM   #80
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How about answering the question? What tenure are you talking about?

OH THAT'S right--I forgot that you need to wait for SABCAT to reply and then you'll just repeat what he said, click "thanks" and hope you get some credit.

Never mind, GuyKEKSANTACOKE. Who did I miss?
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As is so typical, TNV's own link proves that he is lying again. That's all he does is lie.

He either never reads his links or just prefers lying.
Once again you show how clueless you are.. you have nothing of value to say rarely anything close to reality

your life would be meaningless if you did not have a hate filled heart For Christians

and all you do is LIE LIE LIE about Conservatives.

You calling me a liar hell you make John Lovitz character joe look like the paragon of Honesty.


Out of 50 states in the US 46 (better known as 92% have TENURE for Teachers.) and I posted a link to the requirements for EACH STATE needed for Teachers of those states to be eligible for obtaining said Tenure.

so For you callimg me a liar.. you just proved me Honest as the day is long.
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