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Old July 29th, 2008, 10:28 AM   #21
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There is a lot of stereotyping on this board. It also seems to be where all the action is.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 10:31 AM   #22
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That would be the height of hypocrisy on your part.


well, hypocrisy IS his middle name
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Attending church would be an out-of-school activity so its not a good comparison.



This entire issue is why so many parents send their kids to private schools where they learn English, math, history, etc. When did the public schools become political forums of any kind?


Public schools have always been political forums. It was just so ingrained in us to take the white Eurocentric agenda history they taught, to say the Chritian prayers every morning, to instill a morbid fear of all things communist or 'red,' etc., etc., etc.



We just got USED to the political forums. Now that the politics are changing, it's seen as something new.
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I dn't know of anybody who has said they hated Christians - nor anybody who is against people having a "traditional marriage," if that is what they choose for themselves.



I don't hate Christians or "traditional marriage." I would never vote to ban either from existing.
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This entire issue is why so many parents send their kids to private schools where they learn English, math, history, etc. When did the public schools become political forums of any kind?
Gay kids attend private schools, too. Homosexuality shouldn't be a political issue. Gay people are just regular people. I see no sane reason to shelter kids from the fact that we exist.
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Public schools have always been political forums. It was just so ingrained in us to take the white Eurocentric agenda history they taught, to say the Chritian prayers every morning, to instill a morbid fear of all things communist or 'red,' etc., etc., etc.



We just got USED to the political forums. Now that the politics are changing, it's seen as something new.
I never went to any school that taught "white" history or that made us say any type of prayer. We did learn history, and in a country where the majority is white, I never expected that we would learn about mostly non-white history. Besides, with the good goes the bad. There were some great white accomplishments, and there were some bad (Jim Crow comes to mind). Black history would be the same. What I'm interested in is history, not the politically correct rewrite that everyone wants to do.



In high school, my literature book had all white writers. My son's literature book in public school had no white writers. I wanted balance, which you don't get any more in the public schools.



We never had any communist lectures. We also never had kids going down the halls with political slogans or protesting.
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Gay kids attend private schools, too. Homosexuality shouldn't be a political issue. Gay people are just regular people. I see no sane reason to shelter kids from the fact that we exist.
Sheltering? not hardly. My work partner for 11 years was gay. High school students know all about sexuality. I just want schools to focus on education and not hold either antigay (like the principal) or progay rallies. Regular people don't need rallies. I'm black but I've never been in a protest or march in my life because I also want to be viewed as a regular person, not a regular black person.
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Hey! There's still some towns in America that don't cotton to those liberal minded folks


And in some towns in America you have people who hunt them down with shotguns in guitar cases.
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When did the public schools become political forums of any kind?


When they were taken over by the secular progressives and homosexual militants
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I never went to any school that taught "white" history



Mine did. With the possible single exception of George Washington Carver, we had no reason to believe that African Americans had anything whatsoever to do with the history of America - let alone the world.





or that made us say any type of prayer.



Mine did. Every morning in homeroom, just before the Pledge of Allegiance, we were led in a prayer by our homeroom teacher.





We did learn history, and in a country where the majority is white, I never expected that we would learn about mostly non-white history.



Not mostly - of course not. But something. And the Native Americans had a little more to do with our nation than helping to start a national holiday in NOvember.





Besides, with the good goes the bad. There were some great white accomplishments, and there were some bad (Jim Crow comes to mind).



We didn't learn about Jim Crow laws.



Black history would be the same. What I'm interested in is history, not the politically correct rewrite that everyone wants to do.



I believe it's getting better, not worse. As I said, at one time, there was NOTHING about anybody except white men - no, white Christian men - in history classes.



In high school, my literature book had all white writers. My son's literature book in public school had no white writers.



Well, that's a little bizarre, for sure. Toni MOrrison, Maya Angelou, Langston Hughes, Rita Dove, Alice Walker, etc. certainly belong on a literature list in public school ... but to ignore all the white writers is a huge mistake.



I wanted balance, which you don't get any more in the public schools.



And i still say it's getting BETTER balanced. When I was in school, there was NO balance.



We never had any communist lectures.



It's not about lectures. It's about having drills to prepare for the invasion by the Red Devils. It's about learning only bad things about socialism and communism (I'm not a socialist nor a communist - but i know there are some positive aspects to these forms of government). It was about learning to duck under your desk and cover your head to protect yourself from The Bomb when the Ruskies lobbed it at us. It was total indoctrination...so much more effective than lectures.



We also never had kids going down the halls with political slogans or protesting.


We did. We picketed about the Viet Nam war, women's rights, black rights, etc.



you seem to have attended a very insulated school.

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