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Old May 19th, 2013, 08:32 AM   #1
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New Study: Climate Scientists Overwhelmingly Agree

When everyone BUT you is crazy, maybe it's time for a reassessment.

Such is the case of those who write-off the reality of anthropologic impacts to our environment and climate.

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New Study: Climate Scientists Overwhelmingly Agree Global Warming Is Real and Our Fault

A new study has just come out that looked at nearly 12,000 professional scientific journal papers about global warming, and found that—of the papers expressing a stance on global warming—97 percent endorse both the reality of global warming and the fact that humans are causing it.

Ninety-seven percent. That’s what we call a “consensus”, folks.

The study was clever. They found the papers by searching on the terms “global warming” and “global climate change”. Once they compiled the list of papers, they looked at the abstracts (a short summary of the results scientists put at the top of their papers) to see if the paper itself talked about the causes of global warming. About 4000 of the papers did so. That may seem like a smallish fraction, but most papers analyze measurements and climate effects, not the cause of global warming (like most astronomical papers on, say, galaxies don’t discuss how galaxies form, but focus on their structure, content, and so on—also, because there is such a strong consensus on warming, scientists don't generally feel the need to state the obvious in their abstracts).

Examining those 4000 papers, the study authors determined that 97.1 percent of them endorsed the consensus that humans are causing global warming. And here’s where they did the clever bit: They contacted 8500 authors of the papers in question and asked them to self-rate those papers. They got responses from 1200 authors (a nice fraction), and, using the same criteria as the study, it turns out 97.2 percent of the authors endorse the consensus.

That’s a remarkable agreement! And it’s no surprise. There have been several studies showing almost exactly the same thing. This new one is interesting due to the methodology, and the fact that it’s so robust.

So, the bottom line: The vast majority of scientists who conduct climatological research and publish their results in professional journals say humans are the cause of global warming. There is essentially no controversy among actual climate scientists about this.

Of course, if you read the Wall Street Journal or the contrarian blogs, you might think the controversy among scientists is bigger. But you’ll find that the vast majority of people writing those articles, or who are quoted in them, are not climatologists. You’ll also find many, including politicians so vocally denying global warming, are heavily funded by fossil fuel interests, or lead institutes funded that way.

Because deniers tend to go to the OpEd pages and TV, rather than science journals, the public perception is skewed in their favor; people think this is a bigger controversy than it is. The only controversy here is a manufactured one; made up by people who are basing it on ideology, not facts, evidence, and science. That’s not just my opinion; that statement itself is backed up by facts, evidence, and science.

Global warming is real. Climate change is happening. Carbon dioxide in the air is increasing, and is at a higher level than it has been for the past three million years. That carbon dioxide is increasingly heating us up: we are warming at a rate faster than in the past 11,000 years, and most likely far longer than that.

And it’s our fault. It’s well past time we do something about it, and we need to get past this false controversy. For more information, go to The Consensus Project, and see what we can do about it.
Global warming: climate scientists overwhelmingly agree it's real and is caused by humans.
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I think more and more republicans are seeing this. At least there was an article I had on here which showed republicans believe in climate change.

Wish people would read stuff like this. But when Pat Robertson is telling his "flock" to not believe anything people say nor scientists, then you are fighting an uphill battle in getting Americans to pull together and get corporations fined for their pollutions of our air, land, water and climate changes they are causing.
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The vast majority of scientists who conduct climatological research and publish their results in professional journals say humans are the cause of global warming. There is essentially no controversy among actual climate scientists about this.

Follow the money. 'Climate scientists' sure do.

Let us not forget the 31,000+ who signed a letter disputing this false science.
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The vast majority of scientists who conduct climatological research and publish their results in professional journals say humans are the cause of global warming. There is essentially no controversy among actual climate scientists about this.

Follow the money. 'Climate scientists' sure do.

Let us not forget the 31,000+ who signed a letter disputing this false science.
ROFLMAO!!!

False accusations and not facts. Aren't you becoming the poster boy for the republicanteabagger party?
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When everyone BUT you is crazy, maybe it's time for a reassessment.

Such is the case of those who write-off the reality of anthropologic impacts to our environment and climate.



Global warming: climate scientists overwhelmingly agree it's real and is caused by humans.
There is 1 commonality to the papers that support MMGW.. that is they used Mann's and Hansen's data..

One problem with the data.. it has been altered.

Those using unaltered data most don't have the same conclusion..

Wait I am sorry, that is what your post points out.. My appolgies, I responded before I read the meat of the article.


They contacted 8500 authors of the papers in question and asked them to self-rate those papers. They got responses from 1200 authors (a nice fraction), and, using the same criteria as the study, it turns out 97.2 percent of the authors endorse the consensus.


They got a 97% conesnsus of the 1200 of the authors that wrote papers.

Hmmm Hand picked Consensus.

Hey I will ask 1000 TEA Party Members if President Obama is a good president... Hmmm Wonder what the Consensus would be.

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Yeah, the last damn thing you want to do regarding the climate is consult climatologists.

Mining engineers, now, those are the folks that really know what's going on.
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Yeah, the last damn thing you want to do regarding the climate is consult climatologists.

Mining engineers, now, those are the folks that really know what's going on.
I have consulted Cimatologists, at University of Alabama, Oak Ridge National Laboratories, and Universtiy of TN Space Institute. (Notice these are all affiliated with NASA).

and they have access the raw data, not the Reconstructed data.

The when you speak to them personally.. the consensus is different.

You see.. Money goes away if you Vary from the Pope's edict.


Hey.. What would you do if I put released an Antibiogram of Antibiotics X Bacteria was sensitive, and I those anitbiotics were from companies that gave me money, I made them more sensitive, and to those that did not pay me money More resistant. Would you trust the "Altered data" to treat your patients. or unaltered?

simple as that.
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I have consulted Cimatologists, at University of Alabama, Oak Ridge National Laboratories, and Universtiy of TN Space Institute. (Notice these are all affiliated with NASA).

and they have access the raw data, not the Reconstructed data.

The when you speak to them personally.. the consensus is different.

You see.. Money goes away if you Vary from the Pope's edict.


Hey.. What would you do if I put released an Antibiogram of Antibiotics X Bacteria was sensitive, and I those anitbiotics were from companies that gave me money, I made them more sensitive, and to those that did not pay me money More resistant. Would you trust the "Altered data" to treat your patients. or unaltered?

simple as that.
Which one of those guys told you that volcanoes release more CO2 in one hour than humans have released since 1870?
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Which one of those guys told you that volcanoes release more CO2 in one hour than humans have released since 1870?
As I stated in the other thread.. As pointed out by RGV.. I misread the report I linked. BEcause they did a comparitive analysis using 2 different units of measure One unit was Millions of Tonnes the other was Billions of Tonnes, they should have used only one unit of measure... (which is really a kind of a no no for a comparative analysis study).

I even noted in my responst (Apologies to you).
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And unlike MMGW alarmist.. I admitted my mistake.

Dr. Michael Mann, Smooth Operator | Watts Up With That?

Smoothing calculation

Funny the Bottom line is the accutal raw data notice cooling declining temps. not increasing.

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