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Old September 15th, 2016, 01:43 PM   #21
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What has been exposed as a socialist lie?
There Is No Island of Trash in the Pacific
The Great Pacific Garbage Patch was the myth we needed to save our oceans.
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What makes concern for the environment a Marxist trait?
Marxism and the environment | International Socialist Review
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Attacking people with money? You mean, the guy who's drinking water out of a plastic bottle that's carelessly discarded?
The 15 Worst Companies For The Planet - Business Insider
I can find literally hundreds of examples wealthy and business being blamed for virtually every alleged environmental problem in the world.
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Who's been excused for investing in dirty air and water?
Did you read that article about Warren Buffet destroying the environment with his damn trains hauling that oil and running off the tracks? Yeah me neither.
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You're all ate up, man. You should be more kind to yourself.
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Old September 15th, 2016, 07:41 PM   #22
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There Is No Island of Trash in the Pacific
The Great Pacific Garbage Patch was the myth we needed to save our oceans.

Marxism and the environment | International Socialist Review
https://socialistworker.org/2013/06/...vironmentalism


The 15 Worst Companies For The Planet - Business Insider
I can find literally hundreds of examples wealthy and business being blamed for virtually every alleged environmental problem in the world.

Did you read that article about Warren Buffet destroying the environment with his damn trains hauling that oil and running off the tracks? Yeah me neither.

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Warren Buffet?? How about Jimmy "Margaritaville" Buffet instead?

There are several garbage patches of pollutants and plastics, down to the molecular level, patches that don't merely float on top. The garbage stack has depth. Most people have difficulty visualizing molecular-scale garbage, at depth.

The polymerization of many common plastics survives even though the size of the pieces shrinks to the molecular level. The particulates attract various toxins. They enter the food chain, become amplified towards the top of the food chain.

The magnitude of this phenomenon will increase rapidly as people debate whether it's happening.

A great deal of the South China Sea brouhaha is over fishing rights ... food. Some fish stocks are down 90 percent over the last 20-30 years. China has made nominal conservation efforts, which are ignored by many Southeast Asian countries, if not officially then when on the water. Effectively.

Thus far, the Great Ocean has taken almost everything we've thrown at her. I feel her pain. You probably do, too.
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Old September 15th, 2016, 09:05 PM   #23
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Warren Buffet?? How about Jimmy "Margaritaville" Buffet instead?

There are several garbage patches of pollutants and plastics, down to the molecular level, patches that don't merely float on top. The garbage stack has depth. Most people have difficulty visualizing molecular-scale garbage, at depth.

The polymerization of many common plastics survives even though the size of the pieces shrinks to the molecular level. The particulates attract various toxins. They enter the food chain, become amplified towards the top of the food chain.

The magnitude of this phenomenon will increase rapidly as people debate whether it's happening.

A great deal of the South China Sea brouhaha is over fishing rights ... food. Some fish stocks are down 90 percent over the last 20-30 years. China has made nominal conservation efforts, which are ignored by many Southeast Asian countries, if not officially then when on the water. Effectively.

Thus far, the Great Ocean has taken almost everything we've thrown at her. I feel her pain. You probably do, too.
The problem is when the environmentalist radicals tell outright lies to shove a narrative. For example
The Inconvenient Truth About Polar Bears : NPR
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Old September 15th, 2016, 09:07 PM   #24
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Warren Buffet?? How about Jimmy "Margaritaville" Buffet instead?

There are several garbage patches of pollutants and plastics, down to the molecular level, patches that don't merely float on top. The garbage stack has depth. Most people have difficulty visualizing molecular-scale garbage, at depth.

The polymerization of many common plastics survives even though the size of the pieces shrinks to the molecular level. The particulates attract various toxins. They enter the food chain, become amplified towards the top of the food chain.

The magnitude of this phenomenon will increase rapidly as people debate whether it's happening.

A great deal of the South China Sea brouhaha is over fishing rights ... food. Some fish stocks are down 90 percent over the last 20-30 years. China has made nominal conservation efforts, which are ignored by many Southeast Asian countries, if not officially then when on the water. Effectively.

Thus far, the Great Ocean has taken almost everything we've thrown at her. I feel her pain. You probably do, too.
The pain will be felt when the Persian Gulf water temp gets so high that shipping will no longer be a viable option. I do not denounce that the climate is getting warmer. I just have not been sold that it is all man made. To much history before man was around showing this planet in different climates
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The pain will be felt when the Persian Gulf water temp gets so high that shipping will no longer be a viable option. I do not denounce that the climate is getting warmer. I just have not been sold that it is all man made. To much history before man was around showing this planet in different climates
Of course this planet has had a wide range of climate. But the suggestion that because the climate has warmed previously without human input, it's silly to think humans can affect the climate, and perhaps affect it dramatically, is false.

It's not silly.

And if the Persian Gulf gets as hot as you're talking about, I'm thinking either the vast methane clathrates have cut loose or else they are just about to. Now, that would be a wild ride.
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Old September 15th, 2016, 11:39 PM   #26
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Holy crap! We're all doomed, we need to clean up this planet before the asteroid hits, or the Sun swallows the Earth, wouldn't want to give the Sun indigestion.
Yes, let us continue to be foolish and ignorant. Why should we give a damn about the environment that sustains us ? Hey, let's do what those fools who fix up their trucks to spew massive amounts of exhaust on land do. Let's take ships of garbage out to sea and dump it just to stick it to those commies. You should receive the Nobel Peace Prize for this thread Roast Pork.
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The stupidity is that the lying and corrupted science from the global warming crowd will cause more damage to the environment than anything.

It's the boy who cried wolf, after years of false claims who will believe it when the real warnings come?
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Old September 16th, 2016, 08:09 AM   #28
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i think M Bachman has a line on those products


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there is no proof that Co2 is harmful

i love this speech
Carbon dioxide, she says, on a pie graph is 3 percent of the atmosphere. Solid science there.

Human activity is contributes 3 percent of the 3 percent.

Think of it. Some people considered Bachman as a viable presidential candidate or president.

And, CO2 is "all natural," just like botulism, or rattlesnake venom. Or tornadoes. No problem.

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The stupidity is that the lying and corrupted science from the global warming crowd will cause more damage to the environment than anything.

It's the boy who cried wolf, after years of false claims who will believe it when the real warnings come?
Anyone, ANYONE waiting for a "real warning" wouldn't know a real warning if they saw one.

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August Ties July for Hottest Month on Record


It just keeps getting hotter.

August has tied July for the distinction of being the hottest month since record-keeping began in 1880, NASA said in a news release on Monday.

And there’s a good chance 2016 will become the third year in a row of record heat.

An increase in greenhouse gas emissions and El Niño, a weather pattern that warms parts of the Pacific Ocean, has contributed to temperature increases in 2016, scientists said earlier this year.

“But we’ve had El Niños before, they haven’t given us the record-warm temperatures like this,” said Gavin Schmidt, the director for NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

The records being set continue to stack up.

• August and July are now the hottest months on record.

• Every month since October 2015 has set a new monthly high-temperature record.

• The first six months of this year beat 2015 for the hottest half-year ever recorded.

• Both 2014 and 2015 set new heat records, and 2016 is on pace to continue the trend.

Mr. Schmidt cautioned against putting too much significance on monthly rankings and emphasized that the long-term warming trend is more significant.

“This year really does stand out in comparison with all the other years,” Mr. Schmidt said.

The streak of record highs could end — for a while at least — if a weather pattern known as La Niña, in which sea surface temperatures fall below normal, takes hold soon, but Mr. Schmidt said it’s not clear that will materialize.

And even if it does, it is not likely to prevent 2016 from becoming the hottest year on record.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/sc...ture.html?_r=0

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Old September 16th, 2016, 09:00 AM   #30
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Anyone, ANYONE waiting for a "real warning" wouldn't know a real warning if they saw one.



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/sc...ture.html?_r=0

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Sources sited here have all been caught lying repeatedly.
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