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Old November 24th, 2016, 07:20 AM   #11
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Wrong. What we need is to remove lawmakers from science.

Lawmakers aren't qualified to review data, or make any decisions regarding the review of that or any data.

Being an elected clown from some district as a lawmaker, doesn't make you qualified for anything.

NASA was created as an independent agency for the purpose it serves.

Only lawmakers can politicize it, and should not be under any scrutiny from any of those assclowns.

The only thing those knownothings need to concern themselves with is how much, and when to cut the check, for that independent agency of scientists, that don't need their input for anything, to be able to do their jobs, and not be restricted by a bunch of know nothing, assclown lawmakers.
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Old November 24th, 2016, 07:34 AM   #12
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You are wrong. The data is not supposed to be a secret from anybody. Every person is supposed to be able to look at the data. That is real science.
Here is where you will find that data.:

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/data-acces...y-network-ghcn




And here is that raw data and adjusted data, in graphic form.:




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Old November 24th, 2016, 08:15 AM   #13
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Congress wants access to the internal communications about the data.
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Old November 24th, 2016, 08:25 AM   #14
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Here is where you will find that data.:

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/data-acces...y-network-ghcn




And here is that raw data and adjusted data, in graphic form.:



Look at the last 15 years of the data on the graph. The adjusts made by the NOAA especial at the end of the graph are big adjustment indicating warmer temperatures. Congress wants to know why and how these "adjustments" are made. The data is "adjusted" so that there is no 15 year pause in any warming. How convenient. The communications and other data sources are being refused to be turned over to Congress. These are public records. They have no right to refuse access to them.
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Is this a quote from somewhere? Link please.
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...hange-research
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for example: The US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has refused to comply with lawmakers’ attempts to subpoena internal communications relating to a recent climate-change study by its scientists. Why are they refusing to give their data? Science is supposed to be about getting to the truth not hiding data. It is the very essence of science to have review of data, to publish data in order to corroborate by review the findings. People hide data because the data is fudged.

That is another government agency to has totally politicized science. This kind of voodoo science needs to end. We need to get back to real scientific methodology.
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Old November 24th, 2016, 08:32 AM   #17
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You are wrong. The data is not supposed to be a secret from anybody. Every person is supposed to be able to look at the data. That is real science.
And it is regularly published. Hell, there are all kinds of websites that allow you to see it "hot of the press" so to speak. Still waiting for a link.
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Look at the last 15 years of the data on the graph. The adjusts made by the NOAA especial at the end of the graph are big adjustment indicating warmer temperatures. Congress wants to know why and how these "adjustments" are made. The data is "adjusted" so that there is no 15 year pause in any warming. How convenient. The communications and other data sources are being refused to be turned over to Congress. These are public records. They have no right to refuse access to them.
You call those adjustments big because you believed Trump when he told you he has big hands, don't you.

The adjustments are perhaps 5% of the value being corrected. And you think that's big?
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And Trump backpedals again:

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Trump admits 'some connectivity' between climate change and human activity

New York (CNN)President-elect Donald Trump conceded Tuesday there is "some connectivity" between human activity and climate change and wavered on whether he would pull the United States out of international accords aimed at combating the phenomenon, which scientists overwhelmingly agree is caused by human activity.
Trump admits humans have 'some connectivity' on climate change - CNNPolitics.com
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You call those adjustments big because you believed Trump when he told you he has big hands, don't you.

The adjustments are perhaps 5% of the value being corrected. And you think that's big?
Yes of course it is big. Its the difference between a a rise in temp and no rise. Its the entire point of it all. And again Congress has required data that has not been released and for communications also not turned over. this is what is requested and has been refused to be turned over.

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