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Old November 24th, 2016, 08:02 PM   #41
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Clearly, justoneman should explain why he chose to point out the last fifteen years of that graph I posted when he hasn't first demonstrated that fifteen years is an adequate length of time to determine a statistically significant trend in that period and resolution of data, as it seems that horizontal red line on that altered graph is supposedly displaying.

Indeed, the typically used period of time among climate scientists is around 30 to 35 years or so due to the inherent variability of that sort of data.

(Maybe he's fond of cherries?)
Because that last fifteen years has been fudged and Congress has demanded data and communications about the data from the NAOO. Obviously.
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Old November 24th, 2016, 08:21 PM   #42
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Because that last fifteen years has been fudged and Congress has demanded data and communications about the data from the NAOO. Obviously.
Well, that's just a hypothesis.

And all folks like Rep. Lamar Smith are doing is trying to find whatever supposed evidence exists that demonstrates their hypothesis is correct...and coming up short at every single step along the way.

But, anyways, happy witch hunting. Just don't be surprised when no actual witches are found.
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Old November 24th, 2016, 08:26 PM   #43
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Well, that's just a hypothesis.

And all folks like Rep. Lamar Smith are doing is trying to find whatever supposed evidence exists that demonstrates their hypothesis is correct...and coming up short at every single step along the way.

But, anyways, happy witch hunting. Just don't be surprised when no actual witches are found.
They can bring it up in the next Benghazi congressional hearing.
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Old November 24th, 2016, 08:33 PM   #44
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Well, that's just a hypothesis.

And all folks like Rep. Lamar Smith are doing is trying to find whatever supposed evidence exists that demonstrates their hypothesis is correct...and coming up short at every single step along the way.

But, anyways, happy witch hunting. Just don't be surprised when no actual witches are found.
Yeah supposed evidence like fudged data. There is no question about it. It has been altered to look like warming when there is none.
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Ahh so you are an expert. What is your specific education on climate and weather systems?
Well, let's just say I'm a multiple-degreed engineer who started out doing research and decided to go more so into applied and "hands on" type engineering in manufacturing.

But, none of that really should matter very much in terms of what I've actually worked on in my career being that one's knowledgebase, particularly my own knowledgebase, is not by any means whatsoever limited to what one gets paid to work on.

And climate science is just one of the several areas I've had a deep interest in learning and knowing everything about.

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Here's some more "fudged" data.

Sea ice hits record low: Why is that a big deal?


Sea ice, which forms and melts annually, has declined more than 30 percent in the past 25 years. This year, however, Antarctica and the Arctic both reached the lowest levels of sea ice ever recorded since scientists began keeping track in 1979, holding consequences that affect temperatures across the world and strong evidence of the effects of climate change.

On Nov. 20, the National Snow & Ice Data Center measured 8.625 million square kilometers of sea ice, down from the previous record low of 9.632 million square kilometers in 2012, The Boston Globe reports. On the same day the Antarctic – which has actually been increasing for several years hitting a record high in 2014 – showed 13.616 million square kilometers of sea ice, while the previous record low was 14.7 million square kilometers in 1986, according to The Boston Globe.

...In the Northern Hemisphere, sea ice typically increases during this time of year as winter sets in, however, higher than normal ocean temperatures left over from an abnormally warm summer and warm winds continually blown in from the south have caused ice growth to slow down to a near halt this year.

Any change in the annual sea ice melting cycle will have consequences for the cycle further down the line, researchers say, as well as the marine life in the Arctic and Antarctic.

A low level of ice during a warm summer led to a warmer autumn, which in turn reduced the difference in temperature between the Arctic and the tropics, marine and coastal science professor Jennifer Francis of Rutgers University, told the Guardian.

“This helped make the jet stream wavier and allowed more heat and moisture to be driven into Arctic latitudes and perpetuate the warmth. It’s a vicious circle,” she added....
Sea ice hits record low: Why is that a big deal? - CSMonitor.com



https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...DsI/story.html
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Well, let's just say I'm a multiple-degreed engineer who started out doing research and decided to go more so into applied and "hands on" type engineering in manufacturing.

But, none of that really should matter very much in terms of what I've actually worked on in my career being that one's knowledgebase, particularly my own knowledgebase, is not by any means whatsoever limited to what one gets paid to work on.

And climate science is just one of the several areas I've had a deep interest in learning and knowing everything about.
Specifically what degrees did you earn?
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Yeah supposed evidence like fudged data. There is no question about it. It has been altered to look like warming when there is none.
A totally unsupported and unjustified claims. Lots of histrionics but no data and no info to support the ridiculous claims.
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Specifically what degrees did you earn?
What does that matter, being that your line of questioning is starting to appear to be nothing more than an appeal to authority?
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What does that matter, being that your line of questioning is starting to appear to be nothing more than an appeal to authority?
Say it. Say what degrees you have.
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