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Old April 11th, 2017, 07:48 AM   #11
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Tell Robert Redford to stop flying his personal passenger jet around from here to there and extolling the poor and downtrodden to save energy.
Yeah, there seems to be two kinds of rich people:
1. Selfish pigs, who believe their wealth shows that they're superior to everyone else....Robert Mercer...if you're listening!
2. Self-conscious liberals...like Redford, Algore, George Clooney and so many others...Hollywood liberals in particular...who want the extravagant life/but out of the other sides of their mouths, want to pretend they're down with the people with their occasional, highly publicized (and like ghost-written) bleatings about: poverty, the environment, and the wide array of social causes they'll have a fancy party for and write it off their taxes as a charitable event!

In many ways I find the liberal billionaires like Buffet and Gates to be the worst, cause even through their bullshit charitable work, they use them as cover for promoting Big Ag GMO farming throughout Asia and Africa, to solve world hunger...don't see it happening, especially now that OXFAM tells us that a super-famine is about to unleash in East Africa and Yemen. They're also at the top of the list on issues like destroying public education to replace with private charter schooling and privatizing other public services to international corporations.

And, then there's the bullshit like "buying carbon credits" expensive electric cars to tell us all that they're extravagance and jet-setting is all carbon-neutral
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Old April 11th, 2017, 04:28 PM   #12
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I got rid of my car! I don't need it for work; I can run, walk, or use my bike even for grocery shopping. I rent a car once or twice a month at most, if I actually need one.

It never ceases to amaze me when I see neighbours driving to our local corner variety store about 3 or 4 blocks away! After decades of saturation bombing of advertising, lifestyle ads, and indirect advertising through product placement influence on TV and movie production, I'm noticing the under 30 crowd don't have the same stupid attitude about cars that us boomers have had...treating it like an essential..whether we need it or not!

And if it is a necessity where you live, that means it's time to get active locally and lobby for bike lanes, pedestrian-friendly streets in the downtown areas, and phase out car culture..which is going to go back to the way it was long ago anyway..when my father was young, and a car was a luxury that was so unusual, that kids looked every time they saw some rich people driving by in one!

We went for years w/ only one car. We live in the city and I like the bus. I took cabs (now uber) and bike. We will never phase out the automobile from American society. We like the freedom that it implies. Minneapolis is one of the top biking cities in the states we have an expressway that I believe goes all the way to Chicago. I do love when I see the police pull over bikers for doing things like running semaphores.
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We went for years w/ only one car. We live in the city and I like the bus. I took cabs (now uber) and bike. We will never phase out the automobile from American society. We like the freedom that it implies. Minneapolis is one of the top biking cities in the states we have an expressway that I believe goes all the way to Chicago. I do love when I see the police pull over bikers for doing things like running semaphores.
IMPLIED freedom and not actual.
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Synthetic oil is far superior
You are correct pure synthetic is vastly superior. Dexos (not dextrose) is actually a standard, not a brand name. It is a synthetic blend giving longer oil change intervals while still offering superior protection. GM adopted the Dexos 1 standard for all 2011 gas engine vehicles. Any oil company can submit their oil to GM for testing to get certified and then pay a licensing fee to use the Dexos name.

Full synthetics such as Mobil 1 exceed the Dexos standards.
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You are correct pure synthetic is vastly superior. Dexos (not dextrose) is actually a standard, not a brand name. It is a synthetic blend giving longer oil change intervals while still offering superior protection. GM adopted the Dexos 1 standard for all 2011 gas engine vehicles. Any oil company can submit their oil to GM for testing to get certified and then pay a licensing fee to use the Dexos name.

Full synthetics such as Mobil 1 exceed the Dexos standards.
You are right its Dexos
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We went for years w/ only one car. We live in the city and I like the bus. I took cabs (now uber) and bike. We will never phase out the automobile from American society. We like the freedom that it implies. Minneapolis is one of the top biking cities in the states we have an expressway that I believe goes all the way to Chicago. I do love when I see the police pull over bikers for doing things like running semaphores.
I like the freedom not having not having a car implies. The change to a car culture after WWII wasn't just a matter of consumer demand....that likely ranked way down the list of cause.

Behind the scenes, a collection of car companies and oil companies got together to form the "Highway Lobby" and while they were lobbying for improved roads and coast to coast freeway system to be built/ they lobbied for ending or scaling back streetcars and buses to make an essential that everyone have their own car. That worked until our streets became gridlocked with traffic and highways started to slow to a crawl during rush hours.
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