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Old June 2nd, 2017, 04:28 PM   #1
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Trump Misstated MIT Data

Oops, he did it again. LIED. Misled. Exaggerated. LIED.

In the process of making his announcement that the United States would withdraw from the Paris climate accords, President Donald Trump appeared to cite scientific findings by MIT about the impact the pact would have. Not so fast, the researchers said.

Trump said in his Rose Garden speech that even if the climate agreement were fully implemented, “it is estimated it would only produce a two-tenths of one degree -- think of that; this much -- Celsius reduction in global temperature by the year 2100. Tiny, tiny amount.”

Talking points issued by the White House said, “According to researchers at MIT, if all member nations met their obligations, the impact on the climate would be negligible. The impacts have been estimated to be likely to reduce global temperature rise by less than .2 degrees Celsius in 2100.’’

But MIT said the statement was misleading.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...aGO/story.html

Of course Trump has no understanding of the Paris Agreement and he's not in charge of "the art of this deal". He cannot RENEGOTIATE--so that's another lie.
Making his announcement, the President said the US would be out of the Paris accord “as of today.”
But this completely ignores the legal process of withdrawing, said Ms Figueres, who served as chief of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change between 2010 to 2016. The US will not officially be ‘out’ of the agreement for four years from the date it went into effect: 4 November 2016. This means, the US will only exit the day after the 2020 election, in which Mr Trump will likely run for a second term.
This is an international treaty and can't be changed by an EO. The King is not in charge. It took 20 years to bring almost 200 countries together and make a pact. And now Trump has poked his thumb in the eye of our allies and all this is probably thanks to President Steve Bannon.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 04:40 PM   #2
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Yup. Is he a liar or totally scientifically illiterate?

I guess I shouldn't discount the possibility that it's both.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 11:07 PM   #3
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Now, now...certain claims are just...ummmm..."alternative facts."



And now here is a review of the same, as well as some other,...ummmm...."alternative facts.":

In Paris Agreement op-ed, US Senator Ted Cruz misrepresents the costs and benefits of reducing greenhouse gas emissions - Climate Feedback

(Edit: As a side note, I believe the EPA is changing its name to, "The Emitters Protection Agency" in the near future.)

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Old June 3rd, 2017, 03:20 AM   #4
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Now, now...certain claims are just...ummmm..."alternative facts."



And now here is a review of the same, as well as some other,...ummmm...."alternative facts.":

In Paris Agreement op-ed, US Senator Ted Cruz misrepresents the costs and benefits of reducing greenhouse gas emissions - Climate Feedback

(Edit: As a side note, I believe the EPA is changing its name to, "The Emitters Protection Agency" in the near future.)


This article was submitted a year ago, but MIT also debunks the whole Trump economic growth crap and states that carbon dioxide emissions keep falling in the U.S. thanks in part to cheap natural gas. Most of the reduction comes from burning less coal. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, changes in the national mix of electricity production—especially the shift toward cleaner-burning natural gas—accounted for 68 percent of the emissions reductions between 2005 and 2015.
......however, the U.S. economy has continued to grow even in years that have seen decreases in emissions. In 2015 the economy was 15 percent larger than in 2005, but the country emitted 23 percent less carbon dioxide per dollar of GDP last year compared with 10 years prior.

Of course Trump is such a genius. I'm sure he knows more than all the MIT researchers.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ing-in-the-us/
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Oops, he did it again. LIED. Misled. Exaggerated. LIED.

In the process of making his announcement that the United States would withdraw from the Paris climate accords, President Donald Trump appeared to cite scientific findings by MIT about the impact the pact would have. Not so fast, the researchers said.

Trump said in his Rose Garden speech that even if the climate agreement were fully implemented, “it is estimated it would only produce a two-tenths of one degree -- think of that; this much -- Celsius reduction in global temperature by the year 2100. Tiny, tiny amount.”

Talking points issued by the White House said, “According to researchers at MIT, if all member nations met their obligations, the impact on the climate would be negligible. The impacts have been estimated to be likely to reduce global temperature rise by less than .2 degrees Celsius in 2100.’’

But MIT said the statement was misleading.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...aGO/story.html

Of course Trump has no understanding of the Paris Agreement and he's not in charge of "the art of this deal". He cannot RENEGOTIATE--so that's another lie.
Making his announcement, the President said the US would be out of the Paris accord “as of today.”
But this completely ignores the legal process of withdrawing, said Ms Figueres, who served as chief of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change between 2010 to 2016. The US will not officially be ‘out’ of the agreement for four years from the date it went into effect: 4 November 2016. This means, the US will only exit the day after the 2020 election, in which Mr Trump will likely run for a second term.
This is an international treaty and can't be changed by an EO. The King is not in charge. It took 20 years to bring almost 200 countries together and make a pact. And now Trump has poked his thumb in the eye of our allies and all this is probably thanks to President Steve Bannon.
Trump is apt to make fatuous statements. A leading weekly American news magazine has on the front cover, Trump tells Europe, Drop Dead.
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