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Old August 8th, 2017, 02:10 PM   #11
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The report, prepared by actual scientists, finds that climate change is already having a profound effect on the US.
Many wonder if the Trump Administration will suppress the report.




https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/07/c...pgtype=article



The report has been available to read online for a few months now Oops! Seems that the NYT got caught, again.

And the report doesn't say what you think it says.
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Old August 8th, 2017, 02:17 PM   #12
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Here is Axios' lead-in to this story:




Except the report has been online for months. In fact,the draft has been online since January 2017.Oops! The NYT caught with more of that fake news.
“It's not clear what the news is in this story,” Robert Kopp, a climate scientist at Rutgers University who is listed on the report as among the lead authors, said on Twitter.

It's not clear what the news is in this story; posted draft is public review draft from Dec, and WH review hasn't yet missed Aug 18 deadline https://t.co/0sZxCCvoMn
— Bob Kopp (@bobkopp) August 8, 2017

The Internet Archive, a website that archives content published online, says it downloaded the report from the Environmental Protection Agency's website in January 2017.

Kopp noted the draft was published on the site during the public comment period, but then taken down after the period. But it still remained online at the Internet Archive's site.

“The Times' leaked draft has been on the Internet Archive since January, during the public comment period,” Kopp said.

The Times' leaked draft has been on the Internet Archive since January, during the public comment period https://t.co/B8XLQ6omb2
— Bob Kopp (@bobkopp) August 8, 2017

Another scientist who authored the report, Katharine Hayhoe, a professor at Texas Tech who leads the school’s Climate Science Center, also emphasized that the report is already publicly available.

“Important to point out that this report was already accessible to anyone who cared to read it during public review & comment time,” she tweeted. “Few did.”

Important to point out that this report was already accessible to anyone who cared to read it during public review & comment time. Few did. https://t.co/eYgsj09Z97
— Katharine Hayhoe (@KHayhoe) August 8, 2017

Hayhoe added: “Side-by-side comparison shows that @nytimes has public review version of our new climate sci report - so, no leak. It was available to all.”

Side-by-side comparison shows that @nytimes has public review version of our new climate sci report - so, no leak. It was available to all.
— Katharine Hayhoe (@KHayhoe) August 8, 2017

Hayhoe also said anyone who wanted access to the draft could still request a copy from the National Academy of Sciences.

The 3rd Order Draft of Climate Science Special Report is still available via the National Academy of Sciences Public Access File, on request
— Katharine Hayhoe (@KHayhoe) August 8, 2017

A White House official on Tuesday said the New York Times story is “disappointing, yet entirely predictable.”

“As others have pointed out – and The New York Times should have noticed – drafts of this report have been published and made widely available online months ago during the public comment period,” the official said. “The White House will withhold comment on any draft report before its scheduled release date.”
Scientists call out New York Times for incorrect claim about climate report | Fox News

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Old August 8th, 2017, 02:18 PM   #13
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Paranoia suits you.
You know, if you have no reply other than irrelevant meaningless blather, you wouldn't be displaying your ignorance to anywhere near the same extent just staying silent.
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The report has been available to read online for a few months now Oops! Seems that the NYT got caught, again.

And the report doesn't say what you think it says.
Except you and Faux Views lie again. Please note the date on this screengrab if the just issued report.



And that isn't the date it was leaked. That would have been later.
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The report, prepared by actual scientists, finds that climate change is already having a profound effect on the US.
Many wonder if the Trump Administration will suppress the report.




https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/07/c...pgtype=article
You mean global warming right?
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Old August 8th, 2017, 06:33 PM   #16
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Except you and Faux Views lie again. ...

The only one lying is you, and the NYT.
“It's not clear what the news is in this story,” Robert Kopp, a climate scientist at Rutgers University who is listed on the report as among the lead authors, said on Twitter.

It's not clear what the news is in this story; posted draft is public review draft from Dec, and WH review hasn't yet missed Aug 18 deadline https://t.co/0sZxCCvoMn
— Bob Kopp (@bobkopp) August 8, 2017

The Internet Archive, a website that archives content published online, says it downloaded the report from the Environmental Protection Agency's website in January 2017.

Kopp noted the draft was published on the site during the public comment period, but then taken down after the period. But it still remained online at the Internet Archive's site.

“The Times' leaked draft has been on the Internet Archive since January, during the public comment period,” Kopp said.

The Times' leaked draft has been on the Internet Archive since January, during the public comment period https://t.co/B8XLQ6omb2
— Bob Kopp (@bobkopp) August 8, 2017

Another scientist who authored the report, Katharine Hayhoe, a professor at Texas Tech who leads the school’s Climate Science Center, also emphasized that the report is already publicly available.

“Important to point out that this report was already accessible to anyone who cared to read it during public review & comment time,” she tweeted. “Few did.”

Important to point out that this report was already accessible to anyone who cared to read it during public review & comment time. Few did. https://t.co/eYgsj09Z97
— Katharine Hayhoe (@KHayhoe) August 8, 2017

Hayhoe added: “Side-by-side comparison shows that @nytimes has public review version of our new climate sci report - so, no leak. It was available to all.”

Side-by-side comparison shows that @nytimes has public review version of our new climate sci report - so, no leak. It was available to all.
— Katharine Hayhoe (@KHayhoe) August 8, 2017

Hayhoe also said anyone who wanted access to the draft could still request a copy from the National Academy of Sciences.

The 3rd Order Draft of Climate Science Special Report is still available via the National Academy of Sciences Public Access File, on request
— Katharine Hayhoe (@KHayhoe) August 8, 2017

A White House official on Tuesday said the New York Times story is “disappointing, yet entirely predictable.”

“As others have pointed out – and The New York Times should have noticed – drafts of this report have been published and made widely available online months ago during the public comment period,” the official said. “The White House will withhold comment on any draft report before its scheduled release date.”
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We don't know the global temperature to a fraction was 1,500 years ago or even 150 years.

Taking ocean temps into account we only have good global temperature info for the 21st century.
Actually temperature leaves evidence, we know that the temperature is rising.

Some of us ignore reality however.
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The report has been available to read online for a few months now Oops! Seems that the NYT got caught, again.

And the report doesn't say what you think it says.
And right on cue, here comes stupid....
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Actually temperature leaves evidence, we know that the temperature is rising.

Some of us ignore reality however.
Lets say there was no evidence of any warming but lets also imagine the President saying: "I like warmer weather and I want the government to spend 500 billion dollars every year for 50 years to see if we can change the temperature of the earth by half a degree."

Would that make any sort of sense to you what so ever?
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And right on cue, here comes stupid....
No kidding...hi goober.
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