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Old August 10th, 2017, 07:30 PM   #31
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You make zero sense all of the time. You troll, then you attempt to defend the NYT, then when they admit they were in error, and you are shown that, you double down, then make salacious remarks, then insult posters you cannot deal with.
I think you're confusing RNG with Trump supporters, and the NYT with Trump's Twitter feed..
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The report has been available to read online for a few months now Oops! Seems that the NYT got caught, again.

And the report doesn't say what you think it says.
While it appears to be the truth that the New York Times was inaccurate concerning certain statements it made in its article, it also appears to be true that an earlier draft of the report-rather than the final draft of the report that the New York Times article had actually cited-was made available to the public months ago.

And it appears to be the truth that the final draft of the report, that being the revision of the report that the New York Times actually cited, has only been made public fairly recently.

Now, of course, all this bashing of the New York Times over statements which it has already corrected appears to be nothing but a distraction from the bigger picture...that being what the final draft of the report concludes and what politically-minded revisions, if any, occur to it once seemingly scientific illiterate politicians-such as Donnie Douchebag Rump-get their hands on it.

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The report, prepared by actual scientists, finds that climate change is already having a profound effect on the US.
Many wonder if the Trump Administration will suppress the report.




https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/07/c...pgtype=article
Goober how long has the climate been changing, 2-3 billion years now.

What was the previous climate cycle Little Ice age.

There have been 5 major warming periods in the last 400,000 years (including the current NATURAL warming cycle) they all have intervals of 90-110,000 years this warming period is RIGHT ON TIME and guess what, it is the COOLEST warming period of the 5.
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I think you're confusing RNG with Trump supporters, and the NYT with Trump's Twitter feed..
NY Times was lied when they reported 17 intelligence agencies,

CNN Fakes anti-Trump protests by staging them

The NY Times was incorrect about Trump's Taxes

NY Times Covered up the severity of the Clinton Email scandle.

So, no the twitter is probably correct the times is full of shit.
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Goober how long has the climate been changing, 2-3 billion years now.

What was the previous climate cycle Little Ice age.

There have been 5 major warming periods in the last 400,000 years (including the current NATURAL warming cycle) they all have intervals of 90-110,000 years this warming period is RIGHT ON TIME and guess what, it is the COOLEST warming period of the 5.
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2. Physical Drivers of Climate Change

Key Findings


1. Human activities continue to significantly affect Earth’s climate by altering factors that change its radiative balance. These factors, known as radiative forcings, include changes in greenhouse gases, small airborne particles (aerosols), and the reflectivity of the Earth’s surface. In the industrial era, human activities have been, and are increasingly, the dominant cause of climate warming. The increase in radiative forcing due to these activities has far exceeded the relatively small net increase due to natural factors, which include changes in energy from the sun and the cooling effect of volcanic eruptions. (Very high confidence).

2. Aerosols caused by human activity play a profound and complex role in the climate system through radiative effects in the atmosphere and on snow and ice surfaces and through effects on cloud formation and properties. The combined forcing of aerosol–radiation and aerosol–cloud interactions is negative (cooling) over the industrial era (high confidence), offsetting a substantial part of greenhouse gas forcing, which is currently the predominant human contribution. The magnitude of this offset, globally averaged, has declined in recent decades, despite increasing trends in aerosol emissions or abundances in some regions (medium to high confidence).

3. The interconnected Earth–atmosphere–ocean system includes a number of positive and negative feedback processes that can either strengthen (positive feedback) or weaken (negative feedback) the system’s responses to human and natural influences. These feedbacks operate on a range of timescales from very short (essentially instantaneous) to very long (centuries). Global warming by net radiative forcing over the industrial era includes a substantial amplification from these feedbacks (approximately a factor of three) (high confidence). While there are large uncertainties associated with some of these feedbacks, the net feedback effect over the industrial era has been positive (amplifying warming) and will continue to be positive in coming decades (Very high confidence).


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Goober how long has the climate been changing, 2-3 billion years now.

What was the previous climate cycle Little Ice age.

There have been 5 major warming periods in the last 400,000 years (including the current NATURAL warming cycle) they all have intervals of 90-110,000 years this warming period is RIGHT ON TIME and guess what, it is the COOLEST warming period of the 5.
252 million years ago, a series of volcanoes added enough CO2 to the air to drastically change the climate, 95% of life forms in the oceans went extinct, 75% of land species went extinct.

We are currently adding CO2 at ten times that rate...
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252 million years ago, a series of volcanoes added enough CO2 to the air to drastically change the climate, 95% of life forms in the oceans went extinct, 75% of land species went extinct.

We are currently adding CO2 at ten times that rate...
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High-precision timeline for Earth’s most severe extinction

Seth D. Burgess,a,1 Samuel Bowring,a and Shu-zhong Shenb

Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2014 Mar 4; 111(9): 3316–3321.
Published online 2014 Feb 10.
doi: 10.1073/pnas.1317692111
PMCID: PMC3948271
Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences

Significance

Mass extinctions are major drivers of macroevolutionary change and mark fundamental transitions in the history of life, yet the feedbacks between environmental perturbation and biological response, which occur on submillennial timescales, are poorly understood. We present a high-precision age model for the end-Permian mass extinction, which was the most severe loss of marine and terrestrial biota in the last 542 My, that allows exploration of the sequence of events at millennial to decamillenial timescales 252 Mya. This record is critical for a better understanding of the punctuated nature and duration of the extinction, the reorganization of the carbon cycle, and a refined evaluation of potential trigger and kill mechanisms.

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Conclusion

Our age model for the end-Permian extinction provides a precise and accurate timeline for the sequence of events at the end of the Permian, including carbon cycle reorganization, the main extinction event, a dramatic increase in global sea surface and atmospheric temperatures, possible ocean acidification, and a framework for exploring the cause and effects of the environmental changes and feedbacks that led to the greatest Phanerozoic mass extinction. The extinction had a duration of 61 ± 48 ka and was preceded by the onset of a rapid reorganization of the carbon cycle, including a rapid negative spike in δ13C(carb) of 3‰ lasting between 2.1 and 18.8 ka and a global shift in δ13C(carb) from approximately +4‰ το −1.5‰, with a duration of 427 ± 79 ka. This record represents a potentially characteristic δ13C(carb) topology for the end-Permian event, which will stimulate refined comparison with other Permian-Triassic sections, although the highly condensed nature of the Meishan section makes comparison with other sections difficult. The timing of the extinction and associated changes in environmental conditions are consistent with a very rapid biological response to environmental change followed by a complex recovery/restructuring period that took some 10 Ma for many species (38–41) and established the ecosystems that would dominate the Mesozoic. Further integration of the extinction timescale with detailed chemostratigraphic, cyclostratigraphic, and paleobiological data should allow many more insights into the dynamics and timing of extinction and restructuring. In addition, it is clear that more and higher precision geochronology from additional stratigraphic sections is needed. We predict that with further work will come the deconvolution of the end-Permian extinction into a cascade of smaller, shorter-lived extinction and recovery events, driven by differences in paleogeography, biology, and environmental degradation. The short-lived nature of the extinction, protracted nature of the recovery, and comparison with other extinction events suggests that environmental conditions preceding the largest of the Phanerozoic mass extinctions must have crossed a critical threshold or “tipping point” from which the biosphere was unable to recover or adapt quickly enough to survive.



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