Political Forums  

Go Back   Defending The Truth Political Forum > Political Issues > Environment

Environment Environmental Politics Forum - Environmental issues, global warming, pollution, and proposals


Thanks Tree49Thanks
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old September 10th, 2017, 03:02 PM   #71
Senior Member
 
imaginethat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Western Slope, Colorado
Posts: 56,197
Quote:
Originally Posted by RNG View Post
Have you noticed how deniers consistently claim that data from 100 years ago when we had good thermometers is incorrect, but will believe to multiple decimal places results of an temperature estimation technique derived from tertiary surrogates from 400,000 years ago?

smh.
Yes, I have.
imaginethat is offline  
Old September 10th, 2017, 03:31 PM   #72
Talent on loan from god
 
Camelot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Ohio
Posts: 25,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by imaginethat View Post
where were those weather stations located 400,000 years ago??

Show me the satellite data from 400,000 years ago, please.
They will deny till the end. Trying to change their minds is fruitless. When this generation dies out, the country can finally move ahead.
Camelot is offline  
Old September 11th, 2017, 12:19 PM   #73
forgot my old user name
 
right to left's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,733
Quote:
Originally Posted by goober View Post
The report, prepared by actual scientists, finds that climate change is already having a profound effect on the US.
Many wonder if the Trump Administration will suppress the report.




https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/07/c...pgtype=article
It should be obvious to everyone now, deniers have to turn into flat earthers to keep arguing against the obvious. But most of my concern is not with simpleminded deniers, it's the Al Gore side that just tries to look busy going green with new green technologies that will likely not make one iota of difference to the growth in CO2 and methane levels. Growth itself has to be challenged...not doing what is considered 'affordable' in the present economic system. If we have total system collapse, all of the bean-counting about money and economic theories won't mean anything.
right to left is offline  
Old September 11th, 2017, 02:48 PM   #74
Senior Member
 
BubbaJones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Middle Tennessee
Posts: 6,399
Quote:
Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
we have been in a Hurricane drought since 1970

the 2 years of high hurricane activity were year of MAJOR solar activity 2005-6 and 2017

Your idiocy never ceases to amaze !!!!!! Just because it didn't happen to the United States, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

542 tropical storms
280 named hurricanes
32,000 people dead
$3.7 TRILLION dollars in damage

JUST SINCE 1970 !!!!!
  • Year Storms Hurricanes Deaths Damage (millions USD)
  • 2015 12 4 89 >590
  • 2014 9 6 17 232
  • 2013 13 2 47 1,510
  • 2012 19 10 199 75,000+
  • 2011 19 7 100 21,000
  • 2010 21 12 287 12,356
  • 2009 11 3 6 77
  • 2008 16 8 761 24,945
  • 2007 15 6 341 50
  • 2006 10 5 5 500
  • 2005 28 15 3,483 115,520
  • 2004 15 9 3,126 45,235
  • 2003 16 7 50 3,580
  • 2002 12 4 23 1,220
  • 2001 15 9 92 5,260
  • 2000 15 8 30 26
  • 1999 12 8 78 5,532
  • 1998 14 10 9,715 3,165
  • 1997 8 3 4 100
  • 1996 13 9 126 3,600
  • 1995 19 11 117 3,729
  • 1994 7 3 1,175 973
  • 1993 8 4 267 57
  • 1992 7 4 26 26,500
  • 1991 8 4 0 1,500
  • 1990 13 8 123 57
  • 1989 11 7 56 7,670
  • 1988 12 5 555 59
  • 1987 7 3 0 1
  • 1986 6 4 9 17
  • 1985 10 7 210 3,725
  • 1984 13 5 35 66
  • 1983 4 3 21 2,000
  • 1982 6 2 138 2
  • 1981 12 7 0 25
  • 1980 11 9 259 300
  • 1979 9 5 2,069 30,50
  • 1978 12 5 0 20
  • 1977 6 5 0 10
  • 1976 10 6 68 100
  • 1975 9 6 80 490
  • 1974 11 4 8,002 150
  • 1973 8 4 16 18
  • 1972 7 3 129 2,102
  • 1971 13 6 30 212
  • 1970 10 5 51 454

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/hurrarchive.asp
Thanks from Camelot and right to left

Last edited by BubbaJones; September 11th, 2017 at 03:26 PM.
BubbaJones is offline  
Old September 11th, 2017, 04:41 PM   #75
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: California
Posts: 17,217
Quote:
Originally Posted by RNG View Post
You know, if you have no reply other than irrelevant meaningless blather, you wouldn't be displaying your ignorance to anywhere near the same extent just staying silent.
I thought I was responding to meaningless blather? By the way, what happened to all that love for the immigrants Canada was spouting off about? Is reality clouding the issue, hmmm? We've got 4-million in CA. we'd like to send you. As long as you don't deport them back.
caconservative is offline  
Old September 23rd, 2017, 11:21 AM   #76
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: California
Posts: 369
Quote:
Originally Posted by caconservative View Post
I thought I was responding to meaningless blather? By the way, what happened to all that love for the immigrants Canada was spouting off about? Is reality clouding the issue, hmmm? We've got 4-million in CA. we'd like to send you. As long as you don't deport them back.
A good example of the deliberately deceptive tactics of the braindead denier cult wackos.

Post some meaningless idiocy about your own "meaningless blather" and then change the subject and try to drag the thread off-topic.

The fossil fuel industry has definitely recruited the most ignorant stupid losers in America into their astroturfed cult of reality denial.
Thanks from imaginethat
Ahgho Boogheroff is offline  
Old September 23rd, 2017, 04:26 PM   #77
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: California
Posts: 17,217
Quote:
Originally Posted by RNG View Post
You know, if you have no reply other than irrelevant meaningless blather, you wouldn't be displaying your ignorance to anywhere near the same extent just staying silent.
Just responding to your irrelevant post. Did your little feeling get hurt? Oh wait, never mind, that would be irrelevant as well.
caconservative is offline  
Old September 23rd, 2017, 04:28 PM   #78
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: California
Posts: 17,217
Quote:
Originally Posted by BubbaJones View Post
Your idiocy never ceases to amaze !!!!!! Just because it didn't happen to the United States, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

542 tropical storms
280 named hurricanes
32,000 people dead
$3.7 TRILLION dollars in damage

JUST SINCE 1970 !!!!!
  • Year Storms Hurricanes Deaths Damage (millions USD)
  • 2015 12 4 89 >590
  • 2014 9 6 17 232
  • 2013 13 2 47 1,510
  • 2012 19 10 199 75,000+
  • 2011 19 7 100 21,000
  • 2010 21 12 287 12,356
  • 2009 11 3 6 77
  • 2008 16 8 761 24,945
  • 2007 15 6 341 50
  • 2006 10 5 5 500
  • 2005 28 15 3,483 115,520
  • 2004 15 9 3,126 45,235
  • 2003 16 7 50 3,580
  • 2002 12 4 23 1,220
  • 2001 15 9 92 5,260
  • 2000 15 8 30 26
  • 1999 12 8 78 5,532
  • 1998 14 10 9,715 3,165
  • 1997 8 3 4 100
  • 1996 13 9 126 3,600
  • 1995 19 11 117 3,729
  • 1994 7 3 1,175 973
  • 1993 8 4 267 57
  • 1992 7 4 26 26,500
  • 1991 8 4 0 1,500
  • 1990 13 8 123 57
  • 1989 11 7 56 7,670
  • 1988 12 5 555 59
  • 1987 7 3 0 1
  • 1986 6 4 9 17
  • 1985 10 7 210 3,725
  • 1984 13 5 35 66
  • 1983 4 3 21 2,000
  • 1982 6 2 138 2
  • 1981 12 7 0 25
  • 1980 11 9 259 300
  • 1979 9 5 2,069 30,50
  • 1978 12 5 0 20
  • 1977 6 5 0 10
  • 1976 10 6 68 100
  • 1975 9 6 80 490
  • 1974 11 4 8,002 150
  • 1973 8 4 16 18
  • 1972 7 3 129 2,102
  • 1971 13 6 30 212
  • 1970 10 5 51 454

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/hurrarchive.asp
Wow, stuff happens.
caconservative is offline  
Old September 23rd, 2017, 04:31 PM   #79
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: California
Posts: 17,217
Quote:
Originally Posted by RNG View Post
You all should realize that even if it could be shown that AGW isn't happening, the studies would need to continue to try and predict the effect of the GW part.

And if it could be shown that all the thermometers in the world are wrong, then the studies would need to continue to study rain, drought, sea pH, ocean circulation, atmospheric circulation and so on. In fact it would be the denier sites (note I don't say studies) that would lose their funding.

So that's a bullshit argument too.
So you really can't rely on any study, can you? That is, until enough data has been gathered over a long period of time. Mathematical equations must be proven.
caconservative is offline  
Old September 23rd, 2017, 04:35 PM   #80
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: California
Posts: 17,217
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahgho Boogheroff View Post
A good example of the deliberately deceptive tactics of the braindead denier cult wackos.

Post some meaningless idiocy about your own "meaningless blather" and then change the subject and try to drag the thread off-topic.

The fossil fuel industry has definitely recruited the most ignorant stupid losers in America into their astroturfed cult of reality denial.
All anyone wants to see is irrefutable proof. At this time, none is available. What wacko buys into an unproven hypothesis? That would be people like you.
caconservative is offline  
Reply

  Defending The Truth Political Forum > Political Issues > Environment

Tags
change, climate, government, report



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Any Way You Look at It, This Government Report on Climate Change Is Really Bad News imaginethat Environment 18 July 23rd, 2015 06:52 AM
Republicans React to Climate Change Report With Denial and Hatred klaatu Current Events 9 August 9th, 2014 07:35 PM
White House Report: The Cost of Delaying Action to Stem Climate Change The White House The White House 0 July 29th, 2014 07:01 AM
White House Release Report on the Health Impacts of Climate Change on Americans The White House The White House 0 June 6th, 2014 12:00 PM
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's report tyreay Environment 1 February 6th, 2007 01:41 PM


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed



Copyright © 2005-2013 Defending The Truth. All rights reserved.