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Old November 2nd, 2008, 11:51 AM   #1
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Protecting Whales from Dangerous Sonar

Scientists have proven that military sonar can injure and even kill whales. To protect marine life from the lethal effects of sonar, NRDC is working nationally and internationally to establish strict regulations on sonar use so that whales and other marine mammals don't have to die for practice.

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Old December 26th, 2008, 02:20 PM   #2
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This is complete crap.
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Old December 27th, 2008, 11:57 PM   #3
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So true, whales and dolphins use sonar as do a variety of species of fish, should we outlaw all these as well. If that is the case what is next. If theory of evolution is to be believed, then the survival of the fittest must true as well. If man-made sonar is the cause of these beachings, then obviously these animals are not the fittest and as the theory of evolution requires they must be breeded out.



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Old December 28th, 2008, 07:44 AM   #4
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So true, whales and dolphins use sonar as do a variety of species of fish, should we outlaw all these as well. If that is the case what is next. If theory of evolution is to be believed, then the survival of the fittest must true as well. If man-made sonar is the cause of these beachings, then obviously these animals are not the fittest and as the theory of evolution requires they must be breeded out.



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I agree with you right up until your evolution argument... that's where you either become a bit obtuse or clearly demonstrate your lack of understanding about Evolution...
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Not crap at all apparently.



http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science...les/index.html



http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1006112057.htm



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Old December 30th, 2008, 12:55 PM   #6
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I have one problem with this idea. While we are more aware of beachings in other parts of the world now, due to the electronic age... beachings are not something that just started with the use of man-made sonar.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 04:09 PM   #7
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While it's true that large marine mammals use a natural type of sonar to navigate, I wonder how their sonar compares with man-made sonar in intensity.



I'm not at all sure sonar from ships is damaging whales, dolphins, etc., but neither am I sure it is not damaging them.



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Old December 30th, 2008, 04:29 PM   #8
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Your explination makes far more sense, 4vrlearn. Human pollution is a problem that CAN be traced way back. Especially when you consider the fact humans have used rivers, oceans and lakes as garbage dumps for centuries.
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I'm sure the sonar doesn't help. Whales need to communicate across vast distances to find food and mates. Imagine trying to talk to your friend sitting next to you and make plans to meet up on the weekend while two people are screaming in each of your ears.
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Besides, technology can evolve, too. Is sonar really the best we can ever do? We used to navigate by the stars and sextants until we had GPS.
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