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Old March 25th, 2014, 04:18 AM   #1
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Nazi Ukraine. Scary stuff

There are No Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. And the Obama Administration does not support Fascists | Global Research

Red and black flags, all kinds of fascist symbols including swastika, glorifying of Nazi Germany collaborators, wild attacks on Jews, rise of neo nazi 'Svoboda' party and outrage on behalf of the notorious "Right Sector" gunmen, infringement of freedoms, infringement of freedom of speech, attacks on a freedom of press (television, newspapers), attacks on former politicians, rich people and national minorities. Ukraine in its current shape cannot but starts to remind Nazi Hitler's Germany in its 30s! Ukraine's National Guard – Fuerer's SS?? Ok, what next? Concentration camps for Jews and moskal all over Ukraine? Gestapo? Open your eyes, people, Ukraine now stands one step to revive the most horrible ideology the human being in this planet ever knew!
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Old March 25th, 2014, 08:23 AM   #3
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There are No Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. And the Obama Administration does not support Fascists | Global Research

Red and black flags, all kinds of fascist symbols including swastika, glorifying of Nazi Germany collaborators, wild attacks on Jews, rise of neo nazi 'Svoboda' party and outrage on behalf of the notorious "Right Sector" gunmen, infringement of freedoms, infringement of freedom of speech, attacks on a freedom of press (television, newspapers), attacks on former politicians, rich people and national minorities. Ukraine in its current shape cannot but starts to remind Nazi Hitler's Germany in its 30s! Ukraine's National Guard – Fuerer's SS?? Ok, what next? Concentration camps for Jews and moskal all over Ukraine? Gestapo? Open your eyes, people, Ukraine now stands one step to revive the most horrible ideology the human being in this planet ever knew!
What bullshit.

The fascists are the Russians and the Führer is Putin, and you are either a dupe or a propagandist, or maybe both.

Over and over those on your lying side have made these charges, and yet no examples are offered.

You and your neo-communist buddies have tried to reframe a popular revolution against lying, stealing, murdering, rotten friends of Putin's into some imaginary need for a Russian defense of democracy against Ukrainian neo-nazis. Let me say it again: Bullshit.

Your news media is shameful in its lack of honest reporting. Indeed, your media is vital to Putin's remaking of black into white.

You aren't fooling anyone much, other than the poor Russian people.






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I think it's a spammer.
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The net is filled with these Russian propagandists. You Tube is running over with them.

The Russian propaganda war is being meticulously executed. In fact, with the help of people like Mitt Romney, they are winning it.
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The net is filled with these Russian propagandists. You Tube is running over with them.

The Russian propaganda war is being meticulously executed. In fact, with the help of people like Mitt Romney, they are winning it.
How is Romney aiding the Russian propaganda machine?
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How is Romney aiding the Russian propaganda machine?
By "blasting" Obama's naivety, slamming Obama's "faulty judgement," gloating that "I was right," by not offering anything positive, and by beginning his 2016 presidential campaign when unity is needed in the present moment.

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By "blasting" Obama's naivety, slamming Obama's "faulty judgement," gloating that "I was right," by not offering anything positive, and by beginning his 2016 presidential campaign when unity is needed in the present moment.

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Yeah, the truth hurts. You and Romney seemed aligned, did you vote for Romney?

Obama's incompetence has put Putin on the center of the world stage and made him a superstar at home. America would be a much better place had Romney gotten the Oval Office in 2008. Obama's disastrous domestic and economic policies have hobbled us internationally as well. We would have to borrow every penny of aid that we sent to Ukraine from China.

Speaking of China, I'm surprised they haven't moved to annex Taiwan already, I'm sure it is coming and Obama will be just as impotent then as now.

Elections have consequences.............



"In an exchange about al-Qaida during the debate, Obama attacked Romney for calling Russia “without question, our No. 1 geopolitical foe” earlier this year.

“Gov. Romney, I’m glad you recognize al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical group facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida,” Obama said. “You said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years. "
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Yeah, the truth hurts. You and Romney seemed aligned, did you vote for Romney?

Obama's incompetence has put Putin on the center of the world stage and made him a superstar at home. America would be a much better place had Romney gotten the Oval Office in 2008. Obama's disastrous domestic and economic policies have hobbled us internationally as well. We would have to borrow every penny of aid that we sent to Ukraine from China.

Speaking of China, I'm surprised they haven't moved to annex Taiwan already, I'm sure it is coming and Obama will be just as impotent then as now.

Elections have consequences.............



"In an exchange about al-Qaida during the debate, Obama attacked Romney for calling Russia “without question, our No. 1 geopolitical foe” earlier this year.

“Gov. Romney, I’m glad you recognize al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical group facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida,” Obama said. “You said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years. "
In situations like this one, self-serving remarks from high-visibility people criticizing the president without offering alternatives also have consequences.

Russia bears close watching, and presently economic sanctions are what the US can do, that and some much-needed economic aid to Ukraine.

As for the pertinence and accuracy of Romney's specific point, I agree with Obama.

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Obama: No, Romney Was Wrong. Russia Is Weak, Not Strong.

During a press conference today in The Netherlands, ABC's Jonathan Karl asked President Obama if he thought "Mitt Romney had a point" when he said in 2012 that Russia was America's "number one" geopolitical foe. Obama took advantage of the question to slam his current political opponent, Vladimir Putin.

Karl's question began with a challenge. "In China, Syria, and Egypt — and now in Russia — we have seen you make strong statements and issue warnings that have been ignored. Are you concerned that America's influence in the world, your influence in the world, is on the decline?" And, he added, in light of recent developments, have you rethought your critiques of Romney?

During the 2012 campaign, Romney called Russia "our number one geopolitical foe," later downgrading that to a geopolitical foe as The Washington Post notes. The Obama campaign quickly criticized Romney for the statement, but Putin's invasion of Crimea has led to a round of told-ya-so's from Romney and his supporters.

Obama's Romney response could have served as a response to both of Karl's questions. From a rough transcript:

The truth of the matter is that America has got a whole lot of challenges.
Russia is a regional power that is threatening some of its immediate neighbors — not out of strength, but out of weakness. ...

We have considerable influence on neighbors. We generally don't need to invade them in order to have a strong cooperative relationship with them. The fact that Russia felt the need to go in militarily and lay bare these violations of international law indicates less influence, not more.

My response [to Romney] then continues to be what I believe today, which is: Russia's actions are a problem. They don't pose the number one national security threat to the United States.
Instead, Obama said, his main concern was "the prospect of a nuclear weapon going off in Manhattan," bringing the conversation back to the security summit that he was in The Netherlands to attend.

It's a clever argument, one that was also reflected in his answers to questions about the role of sanctions in bringing Putin to heel. Obama's stated goal is to "spend as much effort on bolstering the economy inside of Ukraine" as possible, increasing its global strength against what he depicts as Russia's weakness. And that work only happens, he said, in concert with other countries.

"What the United States has been consistently been able to do and continues to be able to do is mobilize the international community around a set of principles and norms," he said in response to Karl. "We may not act militarily, but that does not mean that we don't steadily push against those forces that would violate those principles and ideals we care about."

On his personal index of foes, Obama claims that Putin isn't at the top. Fair enough. But his answer to Karl suggests that Romney doesn't even make the list.
Obama: No, Romney Was Wrong. Russia Is Weak, Not Strong. - The Wire
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You agree with Obama that a few dozen guys hiding in caves and plotting against the US is our Number 1 foe and that Russia is far down the list?
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