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Old March 25th, 2015, 10:55 AM   #1
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Putin turns attention to fascist Poland

Now, Russia, the defender of world democracy according to Putin and the Russian Orthodox Church, must turn its attention to Fascist Poland.

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Polish general: Russia is trying to wage hybrid warfare in our country

Poland is increasingly anxious that Russia may employ the same type of hybrid warfare against it that Moscow utilized in eastern Ukraine.

Polish general Stanisław Koziej, the head of the president's National Security Bureau, has told Newsweek how he is concerned Russia could reproduce the tactics that have led to months of deadly conflict in Ukraine in its NATO-member western neighbor.

This hybrid war wouldn't come in the form of direct military aggression against Poland and would be prosecuted in a way that's careful not to trigger NATO's collective defense obligations. Instead, a Russian push into Poland would be built around propaganda and subversion.

“There is a negative image of Poland being created in Russian society,” Koziej told Newsweek. “An example of such pressure was the recent declaration of moving Iskander rockets to Kaliningrad region, that is to the Polish borders. A few days ago a Russian document on annexation of Crimea stated that Poland backed up Maidan revolution by training Ukrainian fighters, which naturally is not true, but has built a certain image of Poland in Russian society.”

This vilification of Poland in the Russian media recalls how Moscow portrayed the revolution in Ukraine that overthrew Kiev's pro-Russian government in February 2014. According to the Kremlin's narrative, the Ukrainian members of the Maidan movement were fascists and Nazis who led an unconstitutional coup that necessitated Russian intervention in Crimea and eastern Ukraine to protect ethnic Russians who were suddenly under threat.

This risk of covert aggression, with a focus on propaganda, subversion, and sabotage, is steadily growing within Poland, Koziej warns.

"We cannot be that certain in case of threats under the threshold of war — hidden aggression, diversion, which cannot be disregarded since Russian annexation of Crimea,” the general said.
Read more: Polish general: Russia using hybrid warfare in Poland - Business Insider
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Who could have predicted this. Putin becoming the next Hitler wanna be.
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Personally, I'm not buying into that.
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Obama to Putin, "we will have more flexibility after the election"

Hows Life been in eastern Europe since Obama and Putin have become Flex buddies.
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Obama to Putin, "we will have more flexibility after the election"

Hows Life been in eastern Europe since Obama and Putin have become Flex buddies.
Pretty good unless you live in southeastern Ukraine. Does Obama get the credit for where life is pretty good, or just the blame for where it isn't?
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I think we should make Poland a key ally, alongside the CANZUK sphere. Poland has, far and wide, the best opinion of us amongst the European nations, and probably the strongest military in Eastern Europe.

Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła,
Kiedy my żyjemy!
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Polish president accuses Obama of betraying Poland - Telegraph

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From your own sourced article;

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Reflecting Warsaw's long-standing anger over the 2009 cancellation of a controversial Bush-era anti-ballistic missile system President Bronislaw Komorowski said Poland should build its own missile shield to ensure national defence.
Damn straight. We have a huge debt load, we're cutting spending on research and education and our infrastructure is rotting due to neglect. IF POLAND WANTS A MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM, LET THEM PAY FOR IT. That's Fiscal Responsibility 101.
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The thread, "Putin turns attention to fascist Poland," and you post a more than 2-1/2-year old story to slam Obama, based on grumblings over a ten missile, land based ABM installation that was superseded by a much superior land/sea-based system parts of which already are deployed. The system pushed by Bush had a 2017 operational date.

I can't overemphasize: Bush planned a ten-missile ABM system. It never posed any deterrent to a Russian attack. Komorowski's feeling "betrayed" was political posturing. Obama's canceling the Bush ABM system was no gift to Russia. Ironically, the Aegis ABM system is more effective against ICBMs, but neither Bush's plan nor Obama's was designed to challenge Russia.
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Reflecting Warsaw's long-standing anger over the 2009 cancellation of a controversial Bush-era anti-ballistic missile system President Bronislaw Komorowski said Poland should build its own missile shield to ensure national defence.
Damn straight. We have a huge debt load, we're cutting spending on research and education and our infrastructure is rotting due to neglect. IF POLAND WANTS A MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM, LET THEM PAY FOR IT. That's Fiscal Responsibility 101.
Bush's ten-missile shield didn't enhance Poland's security re: Russia, which has Poland in her crosshairs along with the Baltic and Nordic states.

And maybe Poland "should" build a missile shield, but it won't. Poland, along with most NATO members, doesn't make its promised annual contribution to the alliance.
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