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Old May 7th, 2017, 01:45 PM   #1
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All Hail Macron!

European leaders hailed the victory of centrist Emmanuel Macron in the French election on Sunday as a vote for European unity and a blow to political forces that had sought to build on last year's Brexit vote to tear apart the European Union.

"Your victory is a victory for a strong united Europe and for German-French friendship," German Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesman Steffen Seibert tweeted to Macron shortly after the election results were published.

In a reminder that Macron's victory by no means spells the end of the anti-establishment wave, Le Pen took to a stage in Paris and hailed her "historic" result - the best for her National Front in any presidential vote - and called on "all patriots" to join her in opposition to the new president.

Macron victory hailed as vote for European unity Macron victory hailed as vote for European unity | Reuters

Emmanuel Macron will be next president of France, after beating far-right's Le Pen by huge margin Emmanuel Macron will be next president of France, after beating far-right?s Le Pen by huge margin | South China Morning Post

Europe Breathes a Sigh of Relief: Macron Easily Wins French Presidential Race Voters reject far-right in France as Emmanuel Macron easily wins French presidential race.

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European leaders hailed the victory of centrist Emmanuel Macron in the French election on Sunday as a vote for European unity and a blow to political forces that had sought to build on last year's Brexit vote to tear apart the European Union.

"Your victory is a victory for a strong united Europe and for German-French friendship," German Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesman Steffen Seibert tweeted to Macron shortly after the election results were published.

In a reminder that Macron's victory by no means spells the end of the anti-establishment wave, Le Pen took to a stage in Paris and hailed her "historic" result - the best for her National Front in any presidential vote - and called on "all patriots" to join her in opposition to the new president.

Macron victory hailed as vote for European unity Macron victory hailed as vote for European unity | Reuters

Emmanuel Macron will be next president of France, after beating far-right's Le Pen by huge margin Emmanuel Macron will be next president of France, after beating far-right?s Le Pen by huge margin | South China Morning Post

Europe Breathes a Sigh of Relief: Macron Easily Wins French Presidential Race Voters reject far-right in France as Emmanuel Macron easily wins French presidential race.

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So much for the Brexit trend.
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So much for the Brexit trend.
But France didn't get Frexit.

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Poor, stupid, France.

Unless and until another Charlemagne, or Joan of Arc is raised up, the death spiral will only accelerate.
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So much for the Brexit trend.
the vote for those who call out the EU and all its flaws increased in the netherlands, wilders party increased their vote and won more seats than ever.

the vote for those who call out the EU and all its flaws increased in france, le pen and her party won more votes than ever.

the vote for those who call out the EU and all its flaws increased in england. that has been the only place (so far) where they have won an outright majority, but opposition to the EU is the trend across europe, the people can see the damage the EU is doing to their society. italy might be the next place where there is a majority.
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the vote for those who call out the EU and all its flaws increased in the netherlands, wilders party increased their vote and won more seats than ever.

the vote for those who call out the EU and all its flaws increased in france, le pen and her party won more votes than ever.

the vote for those who call out the EU and all its flaws increased in england. that has been the only place (so far) where they have won an outright majority, but opposition to the EU is the trend across europe, the people can see the damage the EU is doing to their society. italy might be the next place where there is a majority.
Now all they need is their own currency, a bank that will recognize it, a country that will take it as payment for trade goods, and the world bank legitimizing any debts or deficits based on it's worth, and they're all set.

In the interim, I don't notice anyone dumping their Euro's in the river.

Of course if they're really that deadset against it, i'll take all of their Euro's off their hands for them, and will even personally show up to haul them away, to save them the trouble.

I wonder what the newly minted coinage of a socialist country like the Netherlands would be worth these days?
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Now all they need is their own currency, a bank that will recognize it, a country that will take it as payment for trade goods, and the world bank legitimizing any debts or deficits based on it's worth, and they're all set.

In the interim, I don't notice anyone dumping their Euro's in the river.

Of course if they're really that deadset against it, i'll take all of their Euro's off their hands for them, and will even personally show up to haul them away, to save them the trouble.

I wonder what the newly minted coinage of a socialist country like the Netherlands would be worth these days?
Why would it be any different than when a country joins and converts to the Euro?

I was in favor of Brexit, I think Europe in general would be better off without having to carry Greece, Italy and Portugal. Although I did not want LePen to win, I was cheering Frexit.

The cultures in Europe are too different and the lack of border control of any kind was harming countries. That is the main reason that so many illegals can get to countries far from the Middle East. Once they get to an EU country they are free to move anywhere.

I can not figure out why Germany in particular is so strongly pro-EU. A good FTA would achieve the benefits. And with NATO responsible for defence, what does the EU do for the successful countries?
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Now all they need is their own currency, a bank that will recognize it, a country that will take it as payment for trade goods, and the world bank legitimizing any debts or deficits based on it's worth, and they're all set.
that can all be done. why not? it existed 17 years ago, france is the 6th largest economy in the world, there is no reason they cannot recreate what they had for centuries. yes there will be hurdles, but they can be crossed.

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why would anyone do that? the euro is the worlds second most traded currency, its hardly junk. the problem, for the le pen voter isnt that the euro is crap, its that the euro is not french. and the problem for the economy is that the value and interest rates are what suits germany, not what suits france.

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that would be foolish of them. if the time does come, they will exchage their euros with their banks, in exchange for newly minted francs. of course, initially most francs would be bank account entries rather than coins or notes, but they will come.

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I wonder what the newly minted coinage of a socialist country like the Netherlands would be worth these days?
i imagine 1 guilder would be worth 1 guilder.

the netherlands are doing ok, if they redenominated from the euro they wouldnt lose anything. france would lose more, their franc would drop against the euro immediately, but 1 franc would still be worth 1 franc.
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Apparently wishing to avoid a Trump, the French have elected a man who not only doesn't have the support of his party but lacks, in any real sense, a party at all. Fuhrers rule, OK? Maybe!
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I only need to say this:

Interest per Year
54,897,112,024€

Interest per Second
1,741€

Debt per Citizen
33,915€

Debt as % of GDP
99.51%

GDP
2,254,046,144,537€

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