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Old October 5th, 2017, 09:12 AM   #1
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Independence of Catalonia

Soon a new country will be born in the Iberian peninsula the Catalonia.
According to information will be this Sunday that will declared the independence of Catalonia Madrid Spain Castile does not want to see independent Catalonia.
Are we going to have some Balkans inside the Iberian Peninsula?
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Old October 12th, 2017, 08:37 AM   #2
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castile spain does not accept the independence of catalonia, will it be a civil war because of spain castile not to accept independent Catalonia, will compel Catalonia to remain united to spain castile against the will of the catalan people, my opinion to keep the peace in spain it is better to give the independence to Catalonia, many capistalista of many countries of europe, are in favor that the Catalonia stays united to spain, and also other countries of europe has the fear that happens same in its countries as France Italy united kingdom, spain today is catalonia tomorrow is asturias Galiza Basque Country, everything has to do with their cultures and languages that speak within spain, as portuguese only know a Spain that is spain castile, the blame will have been of romans because of the Latin languages, because the Iberian peninsula speaks many languages
neolatines.Catalans and Castilians are white they who understand the house is not mine.


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Em português » In portuguese

Castela espanha não aceita a independencia da Catalunha,será que vai ter uma guerra civil por causa da espanha castela não aceitar a catalunha independente,vai obrigar a Catalunha manter-se unida á espanha castela contra a vontade do pôvo catalão,na minha opinião para manter a paz na espanha é melhor dar a independencia á Catalunha,muitos capistalista de muitos países da europa,são a favor que a catalunha se mantenha unida a Espanha,e tambem outros países da europa tem o receio que aconteça igual em seus paises como a França Itália reino unido,a Espanha hoje é a Catalunha amanhã é a Galiza asturias País Basco,tudo tem a ver com as suas culturas e linguas que falam dentro de Espanha,como português só conheço uma Espanha que é Espanha Castela,a culpa terá sido dos romanos por causa das linguas latinas,pois é que a peninsula ibérica se falam muitas linguas neoalatinas.
Catalães e Castelhanos são brancos eles que se entendam a casa não é minha.
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Old October 27th, 2017, 09:35 AM   #3
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From today the Iberian peninsula has 3 other countries will be born because they are annexed by Spain Castile I still have to give the prabens to Catalonia and good luck.

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A partir de hoje a peninsula ibérica tem 3 países outros nascerão porque estão anexados pela Espanha Castela me resta dar os prabens á Catalunha e boa sorte.
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Every time a new country gains independence from another, it turns to shit. The US is the exception of course.
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Old October 27th, 2017, 10:53 AM   #6
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Every time a new country gains independence from another, it turns to shit. The US is the exception of course.
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friend I do not agree with what you say, for example you would like to see your country attached by another one of French language, if you have your own culture and your own language, a person born in Catalonia has to learn two languages, one person that is born in Galicia has to learn two languages ​​a person who is born in the Basque Country has to learn two languages ​​etc. etc. this happens for centuries in the Iberian peninsula, countries like Switzerland to Belgium etc.etc. There are more than one language in Switzerland. They speak in Cantonese. Italian language. German language. French language. I know 4 languages ​​as in Belgium, which speak 3 languages.
Friend a country for me only speaks one language Countries that speak more than one language does not give good result, Spain is a keg of gunpowder because of the languages ​​and cultures. Spain Castile has to accept the Independence of Catalonia or else they make a war civil???

Catalonia is bothering all over Europe like Canada Quebéque who speak the French language. As is also bothering the capital parasites.



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amigo não concordo com o que diz,por exempo voçê gostava de ver o seu país anexado por outro de lingua francesa,se voçê tem a sua cultura e a sua própria lingua,uma pessoa que nasce na Catalunha tem que aprender duas linguas,uma pessoa que nasce na Galiza tem que aprender duas linguas uma pessoa que nasce no País Basco tem que aprender duas linguas etc. etc. isto acontece há séculos na peninsula ibérica,paises como a Suissa a Bélgica etc.etc. tem mais do uma lingua na Suissa falam em cantões lingua italiana lingua alemã lingua francesa sei que falam 4 linguas como acontece na Bélgica que falam 3 linguas.
Amigo um país para mim só fala uma lingua países que falam mais do que uma lingua não dá bom resultado,a Espanha é um barril de pólvora por causa das linguas e culturas.Espanha Castela tem que aceitar a Independência da Catalunha ou então fazem uma guerra civil???

Catalunha está a incomadar toda a europa como o Canadá Quebéque que falam a lingua francesa. Como tambem está a incomodar os parasitas do capital.
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Should Catalonia be independent?

Only the Catalans, and no one else, can answer this question. Some Catalans consider themselves Spanish. Others do not. Several Spaniards consider that Catalonia is part of Spain. Others do not.

But what is already clear is that there are millions of Catalans (there are 7.5 million inhabitants in Catalonia) who consider themselves politically dominated and usurped by their sovereignty, and resent this. So why should they continue to live under a Spanish government, since their history, culture and language are not Spanish?

This is a fair and straightforward question, for which Western democracies do not have an easy answer. If the Western intelligentsia so reveres democracy, to the point of saying that democratic elections are sacrosanct, then the results would also have to be sacrosanct, whatever they may be. Do Democrats really advocate democracy? The reality is that it is not. For them, democracy is only good when they agree with its results.


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Deveria a Catalunha ser independente?

Somente os catalães, e ninguém mais, podem responder a esta questão. Alguns catalães se consideram espanhóis. Outros, não. Vários espanhóis consideram que a Catalunha é parte da Espanha. Outros, não.

Mas o que já está realmente claro é que há milhões de catalães (há 7,5 milhões de habitantes na Catalunha) que se consideram politicamente dominados e usurpados de sua soberania, e ressentem isso. Sendo assim, por que eles deveriam continuar vivendo sob um governo espanhol, sendo que sua história, sua cultura e seu idioma não são espanhóis?

Essa é uma pergunta justa e direta, para a qual as democracias ocidentais não têm uma resposta fácil. Se a intelectualidade ocidental venera tanto a democracia, ao ponto de dizer que as eleições democráticas são sacrossantas, então os resultados também teriam de ser sacrossantos, independentemente de quais sejam. Será que os democratas realmente defendem a democracia? A realidade é que não. Para eles, a democracia só é boa quando concordam com seus resultados.
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Every time a new country gains independence from another, it turns to shit. The US is the exception of course.
First, it is manifestly not true, and, second, the United States has just been one aggressive crime following another since its slave-owners first collaborated with the French absolute monarchy to avoid paying their proper taxes.
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Every time a new country gains independence from another, it turns to shit. The US is the exception of course.
Are you sure about that? I would say given our history, the jury's still deliberating.
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What I'm wondering is this: Given that Catalonians speak a different language and have their own internal economy being dragged down by the government in Madrid, and given that they proffered an "illegal" mandate that voted overwhelmingly for independence, how is that much different from the American Continental Congress drafting an "illegal" Declaration of Independence and declaring the United States on behalf the Americans who elected them an independent sovereign nation?
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