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Old December 23rd, 2008, 10:49 PM   #1
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My employer is treating me like a second class citizen...

The other day the president of the company called me into his office. He said that his brother, the Executive Vice President of Finance and IT, was taking early retirement and moving to Costa Rica with his new trophy wife. He told me I would be replacing his brother. I would get everything his brother had, my salary would triple, I would get the corner office his brother had, 2 (young hot female) administrative assistants, a generous allowance for a company car, and use of the company condo for 3 weeks a year. I was so excited... then he told me that because I was not family, I would not be an executive vice president, I would be a senior vice president . Can you believe the nerve of this guy. I have never been so insulted in my entire life. I immediately contacted the ACLU, we are going to take these bastards down...
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Old December 24th, 2008, 08:24 AM   #2
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The other day the president of the company called me into his office. He said that his brother, the Executive Vice President of Finance and IT, was taking early retirement and moving to Costa Rica with his new trophy wife. He told me I would be replacing his brother. I would get everything his brother had, my salary would triple, I would get the corner office his brother had, 2 (young hot female) administrative assistants, a generous allowance for a company car, and use of the company condo for 3 weeks a year. I was so excited... then he told me that because I was not family, I would not be an executive vice president, I would be a senior vice president . Can you believe the nerve of this guy. I have never been so insulted in my entire life. I immediately contacted the ACLU, we are going to take these bastards down...


You sound like someone I know on Yahoo. Consider yourself lucky that he does not treat you like a 3rd or 4th class citizen.
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I guess you could go to your union Mr Would-be Exec - oh wait.
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A. What does this have to do with gay marriage?



B. Do you expect anyone to believe you?
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Old December 26th, 2008, 07:12 AM   #5
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A. What does this have to do with gay marriage?


Gay people claim that civil unions, which give them all the same rights of marriage, is akin to being treated like a "2nd class citizen"...



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B. Do you expect anyone to believe you?


I hope not, it is satire.
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Old December 26th, 2008, 07:38 AM   #6
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Gay people claim that civil unions, which give them all the same rights of marriage, is akin to being treated like a "2nd class citizen"...



There is a reason that we claim this. The reason is because it is true.



Due to the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) same-sex couples in marriages, civil unions, or domestic partnerships in the U.S. do not have the 1,138 rights that a married couple has under federal law. So your statement that civil unions give all the same rights as marriage is not true.



Also, private companies are not bound by the same rules as governments, so while your satire was amusing, it wasn't directly comparable.
 
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... not to mention, thanks to DOMA, the minimal rights extended to those in civil unions are available ONLY if the couple doesn't move from the state where they were granted
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Old December 26th, 2008, 08:55 AM   #8
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I would not be an executive vice president, I would be a senior vice president
The analogy would only be accurate if any employee of the company, anyone who does business with the company, or any government bureaucrat or judge can, at random, decide that executive vice president and senior vice president are not really equal and you are then required to prove in a court of law that they are.
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Old December 26th, 2008, 02:24 PM   #9
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Gay people claim that civil unions, which give them all the same rights of marriage, is akin to being treated like a "2nd class citizen"...



There is a reason that we claim this. The reason is because it is true.



Due to the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) same-sex couples in marriages, civil unions, or domestic partnerships in the U.S. do not have the 1,138 rights that a married couple has under federal law. So your statement that civil unions give all the same rights as marriage is not true.


Yes, but the legislation that will soon pass through congress and be signed by President elect Obama, will give queers the right to enter into a civil union that will grant them all the benefits of marriage, and just be called something different. Unless it is a federal law, it is meaningless outside of your own state. That is why it is so silly for people to get bent out of shape in CA. Their "marriages" were not recognized by the federal government nor would they be recognized in most other states.
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Old December 26th, 2008, 02:31 PM   #10
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Yes, but



I'll take that to mean that you agree with me about your statement not being true. Thank you.



the legislation that will soon pass through congress and be signed by President elect Obama, will give queers the right to enter into a civil union that will grant them all the benefits of marriage, and just be called something different



I've heard nothing at all about such legislation. A link would be helpful here.



If such a federal law should actually pass, where ALL the benefits of marriage are included, making it legally identical to civil marriage, then as far as I'm concerned, they can call it anything they like.



That way, justice is served, the Constitution is upheld, and the small-minded right-wing fringe types can quietly continue to pretend to be superior. Everyone wins.
 
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