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Old January 11th, 2011, 09:37 AM   #1
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State Dept steps back on gender-neutral parentage

By The Associated Press

01.10.2011 11:00am EST(Washington) In a bid to forestall a backlash from congressional conservatives, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has ordered the State Department to amend a bureaucratic change that would have eliminated the titles “mother” and “father” with the gender-neutral term “parent” in reports of overseas births.



The State Department said Saturday that Clinton had instructed the department to retain “mother” and “father” in a form known as a “Consular Report of Birth Abroad” that U.S. embassies use to document the birth of a child to expatriate Americans. It said the form will now ask for the names of the child’s “mother or parent 1? and “father or parent 2.” Gay and lesbian groups had applauded the initial change, which was announced with little fanfare in late December. But conservative groups criticized it as an attack on traditional marriage and family values.



Clinton has been a forceful advocate for gay and lesbian rights and in 2009 moved to give homosexual diplomats, their partners and families the same benefits that heterosexual diplomats and their families receive. That step at the State Department preceded a similar government-wide move announced by the White House.



However, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said Saturday that Clinton had not been aware that the terms “mother” and “father” would be stricken from the consular birth reports when she signed off on broader changes to the document last year.



“She has directed that the relevant forms retain to the existing references to `mother’ and `father’ in addition to the designation `parent’,” Crowley said. He said her decision would ensure that the documents are as inclusive and informative as possible.



State Department officials said Clinton was concerned that eliminating the “mother” and “father” from the forms would spark an unwanted fight with newly powerful Republican lawmakers who are calling for major cuts in foreign operations spending and have challenged administration policy in numerous areas.



The changes to the form were made public on Dec. 22 but not widely noticed until earlier this week when the Family Equality Council, an advocacy group for gay, lesbian and transgender families, hailed the revisions as a victory for its efforts and thanked Clinton for making them.



In a Jan. 5 statement, it said the change “carries significant tangible and symbolic consequences for same-sex headed families, and increases governmental efficiency by alleviating the needless confusion, delays and denials caused by outdated gender-specific forms.”



That drew the attention of conservative groups, like the Family Research Council, which called the move indicated of the “topsy-turvy world of left-wing political correctness” and slammed the State Department for making changes to a “birth-related document” that “provide less information about the circumstances of that birth.”



“This is clearly designed to advance the causes of same-sex `marriage’ and homosexual parenting without statutory authority, and violates the spirit if not the letter of the Defense of Marriage Act,” the council said in a statement on Friday.



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Old January 11th, 2011, 09:39 AM   #2
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IMO, the worst thing about this was the political whoring to the right wing by Clinton. Which is just what her husband did with DADT. It would be different if she actually believed in her actions - but it's clear she changed only because of pressure from hate groups.
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Honestly, I cannot imagine why this bothers you. If the lines read “mother or parent 1? and “father or parent 2" what possibly could be wrong with that?





If I was the father of a child, I'd like some acknowledgment of being the father rather than being "parent 2." If this is offensive to LGBT citizens, then they need not only to grow some thicker skin, but they should ask themselves why a compromise which is respectful to both heterosexuals and homosexuals is wrong in some way.





Taking offense at this truly does provide ammo for those who say a "homosexual agenda" is being forced upon all citizens, imo.







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Old January 11th, 2011, 10:30 AM   #4
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you object to being parent 1?



my husband and I raised a son - and neither of us was the "mother" on any form.



you think that being called a parent is more insulting than a man being forced to be called a mother?



really?
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Parent is the only term that should be used in any birth form. Anything less is an insult. Will the homophobia ever stop?
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LOL at "homophobia" being hurled at people who think there should be respect shown for "mother" and "father". Looks like there's a bit of "heterophobia" here too.



Just because some people are raised in a situation where the normative "mother and father" no longer exist, doesn't mean that we should change paperwork to conform to that abnormal situation. Nearly every human born has a biological "mother and father", with "nearly" being a nod to some unnatural processes that may in the future create kids from single gender genetic material.



It's not "homophobia" for documents to show that biological standard.
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LOL at "homophobia" being hurled at people who think there should be respect shown for "mother" and "father". Looks like there's a bit of "heterophobia" here too.



Just because some people are raised in a situation where the normative "mother and father" no longer exist, doesn't mean that we should change paperwork to conform to that abnormal situation. Nearly every human born has a biological "mother and father", with "nearly" being a nod to some unnatural processes that may in the future create kids from single gender genetic material.



It's not "homophobia" for documents to show that biological standard.


Exactly.



This story is yet another example of the lunacy perpetrated by the intolerant and cognitively dissonant homosexual mob and their continual attempts to attack family life and create a bizarre sub-culture.



Hillary Clinton is a wife and a mother. For her to recognise that it takes one man and one woman to create a baby, and that every child deserves both parents, is entirely appropriate and is neither "homophobic" nor "whoring".
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It's not homophobic - it's merely insulting and offensive.



It is whoring - she had already changed it to the just way of having the forms printed - then changed when she was attacked by bigots.
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It's not homophobic - it's merely insulting and offensive.



It is whoring - she had already changed it to the just way of having the forms printed - then changed when she was attacked by bigots.
I bet the more likely thing was that she didn't read that specific part. Didn't even know it existed until it was pointed out later.
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you object to being parent 1?



my husband and I raised a son - and neither of us was the "mother" on any form.



you think that being called a parent is more insulting than a man being forced to be called a mother?



really?


The current decision allows for both viewpoints to be accommodated.





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