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Old August 24th, 2011, 10:47 AM   #1
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A court hearing next week over whether video of the 2010 Proposition 8 trial in San Francisco should be unsealed may itself be broadcasted.



The Associated Press reports that U.S. district chief judge James Ware notified attorneys in the case that he would like to record the Aug. 29 proceedings on the matter. Lawyers representing backers of the antigay ballot initiative oppose the broadcast and have fought to keep sealed video of the trial, which includes testimony by leading LGBT scholars and a withering cross-examination of gay marriage opponent David Blankenhorn by attorney David Boies.



Judge Vaughn R. Walker, now retired, had recorded the trial, though the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that it could not be broadcasted outside of federal district court viewing areas.



Prop 8 backers have assailed Judge Walker's use of a three-minute video clip from the trial for a recent lecture and have demanded the recordings be turned over. They have also appealed Judge Ware’s June ruling that Walker’s opinion striking down the ballot measure cannot be vacated because he is gay. Gay jurists, Ware ruled, are “entitled to all the presumptions about impartiality and fairness as other judges.”
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Old August 24th, 2011, 11:35 AM   #2
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Old August 24th, 2011, 12:13 PM   #3
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I was, just yesterday, reading part of Boies cross examination of expert witness, Prof. Kenneth Miller. It is actually rather funny. It seems that Professor Miller has a hard time deciding whether he agrees with himself or not. LOL



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Of course. The pathetic soulless bigots can't even keep track of their own bullshit.



They say gay marriage will harm marriage yet they can't think of a single way that it shall harm marriage. Also, they say that a gay judge is biased in a gay marriage case, and that he stood to gain from it, when he could have gone to another state that had gay marriage legalized and gotten married there, or he could have gotten before the whole thing started, or he could have gotten a civil union (which they kept lying and saying it was just like marriage, so if he got a civil union, what did he stand to gain?)



They've got nothing but contradicting bullcrap. So if they can't keep track of their own bullock, how is that guy going to?
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Old August 24th, 2011, 12:41 PM   #5
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I was, just yesterday, reading part of Boies cross examination of expert witness, Prof. Kenneth Miller. It is actually rather funny. It seems that Professor Miller has a hard time deciding whether he agrees with himself or not. LOL



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I like this exchange between Boies and Miller:

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B: Reads from another article. “Popular view that courts should be lenient in judicial review for initiatives is 180 degrees off. … “When courts review initiatives, need to be more vigilant, not less.” “Courts are the only institutional filter, the check of first and last resort” in imitative process. Courts protect against “majoritarian” rule. Did you believe this when you wrote it?

M: It’s compound statement. Which part?

B: All of it. You wrote it!

M: I did not agree with all of it.

B: You don’t say here that you are exploring the issue. You don’t say maybe this is right and maybe you don’t know?

M: Maybe I should have written it differently. Maybe courts should look at initiatives in the same way as laws passed by legislature.



[Everyone laughed at this guy when he said he did not necessarily agree with all that he wrote at the time he wrote it.]
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I was, just yesterday, reading part of Boies cross examination of expert witness, Prof. Kenneth Miller. It is actually rather funny. It seems that Professor Miller has a hard time deciding whether he agrees with himself or not. LOL



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I like this exchange between Boies and Miller:

Quote:

B: Reads from another article. “Popular view that courts should be lenient in judicial review for initiatives is 180 degrees off. … “When courts review initiatives, need to be more vigilant, not less.” “Courts are the only institutional filter, the check of first and last resort” in imitative process. Courts protect against “majoritarian” rule. Did you believe this when you wrote it?

M: It’s compound statement. Which part?

B: All of it. You wrote it!

M: I did not agree with all of it.

B: You don’t say here that you are exploring the issue. You don’t say maybe this is right and maybe you don’t know?

M: Maybe I should have written it differently. Maybe courts should look at initiatives in the same way as laws passed by legislature.



[Everyone laughed at this guy when he said he did not necessarily agree with all that he wrote at the time he wrote it.]


*** Yes, it was quite humerous, this as well as passages within the documentation that fell apart. It was like an entire bigoted herd's cause was sitting on the edge of their chairs, drooling at the possiblity of blissful, hate filled victory was just around the corner, until the air was sucked out of the room, along with any hope they may have had.



No wonder they don't want it made public, they themselves could not bear to witness this drama a seconf time.
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Those damn bigots!!! They are at it again.
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