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Old August 31st, 2011, 03:31 PM   #1
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MINNEAPOLIS (Reuters) - The Republican-led Minnesota legislature approved late Saturday putting a state constitutional amendment banning gay marriage to voters in November 2012.



The Minnesota House of Representatives voted 70 to 62 after about five hours of discussion, cementing the amendment's place on the ballot for 2012. The Senate approved the proposed amendment earlier in May largely along party lines.



Minnesota law already bans gay marriage, but amendment sponsors argued that a constitutional amendment would ensure legislators or a small group of judges could not change that.



"This is not about hatred, it is not about discrimination or intolerance," Republican Representative Steve Gottwalt said of the amendment. "I have faith we as Minnesotans can have a reasonable dialogue on this issue characterized by respect and decency and allow the people of Minnesota to decide."



Democratic Governor Mark Dayton, who strongly opposes any constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage, has no power to stop lawmakers from putting an amendment on the ballot.



Protesters supporting and opposing the amendment could be heard demonstrating outside the House chambers for days and anti-amendment chants were audible after the vote.



The amendment is "a real ill-advised attempt to use our constitution to place an important question out of reach of the elected officials and to impose our will in the year 2011 on future generations 100, 200, 300 or more years from now," Democratic Representative Steve Simon said.

(He says that like it's a problem?)



Twenty-nine states have adopted constitutional amendments restricting marriage as between a man and a woman, and 12 other states have passed laws to that effect, according to the Human Rights Campaign

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"This is not about hatred, it is not about discrimination or intolerance," Republican Representative Steve Gottwalt chuckled. "I have faith we as Minnesotans can have a reasonable dialogue on this issue characterized by respect and decency and allow the people of Minnesota to vote to deny the civil rights of a minority."
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"This is not about hatred, it is not about discrimination or intolerance," Republican Representative Steve Gottwalt chuckled. "I have faith we as Minnesotans can have a reasonable dialogue on this issue characterized by respect and decency and allow the people of Minnesota to vote to deny the civil rights of a minority."




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"I have faith we as Minnesotans can have a reasonable dialogue on this issue characterized by respect and decency and allow the people of Minnesota to decide."
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"This is not about hatred, it is not about discrimination or intolerance," Republican Representative Steve Gottwalt chortled. "I have faith we as Minnesotans can have a reasonable dialogue on this issue characterized by respect and decency and deal with this issue in the same way that the southern states dealt with mixed-race couples, by lynching them."
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"This is not about hatred, it is not about discrimination or intolerance," Republican Representative Steve Gottwalt chortled. "I have faith we as Minnesotans can have a reasonable dialogue on this issue characterized by respect and decency and deal with this issue in the same way that the southern states dealt with mixed-race couples, by fining or imprisoning them."




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"I have faith we as Minnesotans can have a reasonable dialogue on this issue characterized by respect and decency and allow the people of Minnesota to decide."
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"This is not about hatred, it is not about discrimination or intolerance," Republican Representative Steve Gottwalt slyly winked. "I have faith we as Minnesotans can have a reasonable dialogue on this issue characterized by respect and decency and deal with this issue in the same way that Michele Bachmann and the Anoka-Hennepin school district dealt with their gay students, by urging them to commit suicide."
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Allow me to correct your lies:



"I have faith we as Minnesotans can have a reasonable dialogue on this issue characterized by respect and decency and allow the people of Minnesota to decide."
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Constitutional amendments should place limitations on government, not citizens.
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Constitutional amendments on the state level are meaningless if they violate the due process and equal protection of American citizens, and this one does.....so if Minnesota wants to go through the fight and spend the money and cause the strife and do what California did, then let them; in the end, we all know what the outcome will be, even those who have fought so hard to prevent it.





Jim Daly, president of the Religious Right group Focus on the Family conceded to an interviewer last week that anti-gay groups have “probably lost” the debate over marriage equality. It’s a big admission by a prominent figure on the Right, but it’s also an acknowledgement of what has become common sense. Poll after poll shows that for the first time majorities of Americans support marriage equality, with the highest numbers among young people. As anti-gay legislation is fought out in the courts and in statehouses, it is accompanied by a sea change in public opinion that threatens to make it archaic.

http://blog.pfaw.org/content/focus-t...hat-right-%E2%%9Closing%E2%%9D-equality-debate
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