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Old February 7th, 2012, 09:13 AM   #1
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Old February 7th, 2012, 09:32 AM   #3
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Courts Overturn Will of People by Invalidating Proposition 8

Family Group Vows: We will Defend Marriage and Proposition 8



Sacramento, CA--The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled today that Proposition 8, the 2008 ballot initiative that codified the traditional definition of marriage, is invalid and unconstitutional.



"This is a stunning assault on democracy and California's initiative process," explained Karen England, Executive Director of pro-family group Capitol Resource Institute and a key leader in the passage of Proposition 8. "Well over 50% of California voters approved Proposition 8; today their will was overturned by a panel of arrogant judges who want to impose their political agenda on the rest of us."



The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling is not the end of the road for Proposition 8.



"The truth will always prevail and we are confident that the traditional-and true-definition of marriage will be upheld by the Supreme Court," stated England. "The voice of the people must be heard and respected. The future of California and American families depends upon the sanctity of traditional marriage. It's time for the courts to recognize marriages' critical role in society and protect it."



Karen England is available for interviews. To contact her, email kengland@capitolresource.org.
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There are a lot of happy people here in SF today, I may have to head down to Civic Center in spite of the rain.



....sadly, there are a lot of people who are deeply upset because they just can't seem to control other people's lives the way they want to.



I look forward to making fun of those people should I encounter any of them.
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Courts Overturn Will of People by Invalidating Proposition 8

Family Group Vows: We will Defend Marriage and Proposition 8



Sacramento, CA--The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled today that Proposition 8, the 2008 ballot initiative that codified the traditional definition of marriage, is invalid and unconstitutional.



"This is a stunning assault on democracy and California's initiative process," explained Karen England, Executive Director of pro-family group Capitol Resource Institute and a key leader in the passage of Proposition 8. "Well over 50% of California voters approved Proposition 8; today their will was overturned by a panel of arrogant judges who want to impose their political agenda on the rest of us."



The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling is not the end of the road for Proposition 8.



"The truth will always prevail and we are confident that the traditional-and true-definition of marriage will be upheld by the Supreme Court," stated England. "The voice of the people must be heard and respected. The future of California and American families depends upon the sanctity of traditional marriage. It's time for the courts to recognize marriages' critical role in society and protect it."



Karen England is available for interviews. To contact her, email kengland@capitolresource.org.




It's time for heterosexual individuals to recognize the critical role of heterosexual marriage, and to honor it.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 10:58 AM   #6
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Courts Overturn Will of People by Invalidating Proposition 8

Family Group Vows: We will Defend Marriage and Proposition 8



Sacramento, CA--The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled today that Proposition 8, the 2008 ballot initiative that codified the traditional definition of marriage, is invalid and unconstitutional.



"This is a stunning assault on democracy and California's initiative process," explained Karen England, Executive Director of pro-family group Capitol Resource Institute and a key leader in the passage of Proposition 8. "Well over 50% of California voters approved Proposition 8; today their will was overturned by a panel of arrogant judges who want to impose their political agenda on the rest of us."



The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling is not the end of the road for Proposition 8.



"The truth will always prevail and we are confident that the traditional-and true-definition of marriage will be upheld by the Supreme Court," stated England. "The voice of the people must be heard and respected. The future of California and American families depends upon the sanctity of traditional marriage. It's time for the courts to recognize marriages' critical role in society and protect it."



Karen England is available for interviews. To contact her, email kengland@capitolresource.org.




It's time for heterosexual individuals to recognize the critical role of heterosexual marriage, and to honor it.




I agree.
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Old February 12th, 2012, 07:30 AM   #7
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And how does allowing same sex couples to marry prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage. That's like saying we need to honor WWII vets therefore we shouldn't honor vets of any other wars.
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As everybody knows, allowing SSM make straight marriages null and void
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As everybody knows, allowing SSM make straight marriages null and void


All men will be forced to marry into gay marriages and we'll topple the church and rule the world. Yes....-Steeples fingers.- Excellent....
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And how does allowing same sex couples to marry prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage. That's like saying we need to honor WWII vets therefore we shouldn't honor vets of any other wars.


How does allowing polygamy or bestial marriage prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage?



How does allowing public nudity or prostitution prohibit anyone from wearing clothes or not using prostitutes?



How does legalising heroin prohibit anyone from being sober?
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And how does allowing same sex couples to marry prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage. That's like saying we need to honor WWII vets therefore we shouldn't honor vets of any other wars.


How does allowing polygamy or bestial marriage prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage?



How does allowing public nudity or prostitution prohibit anyone from wearing clothes or not using prostitutes?



How does legalising heroin prohibit anyone from being sober?


I don't know....how does it?
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[quote name='Nwolfe35' timestamp='1329064254' post='382550']

And how does allowing same sex couples to marry prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage. That's like saying we need to honor WWII vets therefore we shouldn't honor vets of any other wars.


How does allowing polygamy or bestial marriage prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage?



How does allowing public nudity or prostitution prohibit anyone from wearing clothes or not using prostitutes?



How does legalising heroin prohibit anyone from being sober?


I don't know....how does it?

[/quote]



Yet again you show how out of step you are with normality.



But for you it's just your way of trying to be different
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Old February 12th, 2012, 04:49 PM   #13
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[quote name='gary' timestamp='1329073749' post='382588']

[quote name='Nwolfe35' timestamp='1329064254' post='382550']

And how does allowing same sex couples to marry prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage. That's like saying we need to honor WWII vets therefore we shouldn't honor vets of any other wars.


How does allowing polygamy or bestial marriage prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage?



How does allowing public nudity or prostitution prohibit anyone from wearing clothes or not using prostitutes?



How does legalising heroin prohibit anyone from being sober?


I don't know....how does it?

[/quote]



Yet again you show how out of step you are with normality.



But for you it's just your way of trying to be different

[/quote]



Damn straight I am "out of step" with normality...



What you don't understand is that normality has nothing to do with Constitutional Rights.
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As everybody knows, allowing SSM make straight marriages null and void


All men will be forced to marry into gay marriages and we'll topple the church and rule the world. Yes....-Steeples fingers.- Excellent....


Don't forget the destruction of rain forests that gays are responsible for.
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[quote name='gary' timestamp='1329073749' post='382588']

[quote name='Nwolfe35' timestamp='1329064254' post='382550']

And how does allowing same sex couples to marry prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage. That's like saying we need to honor WWII vets therefore we shouldn't honor vets of any other wars.


How does allowing polygamy or bestial marriage prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage?



How does allowing public nudity or prostitution prohibit anyone from wearing clothes or not using prostitutes?



How does legalising heroin prohibit anyone from being sober?


I don't know....how does it?

[/quote]



Yet again you show how out of step you are with normality.



But for you it's just your way of trying to be different

[/quote]



You failed to answer his question on how does legalizing heroin prohibit anyone from being sober. How does it really?
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[quote name='Nwolfe35' timestamp='1329076216' post='382601']

[quote name='gary' timestamp='1329073749' post='382588']

[quote name='Nwolfe35' timestamp='1329064254' post='382550']

And how does allowing same sex couples to marry prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage. That's like saying we need to honor WWII vets therefore we shouldn't honor vets of any other wars.


How does allowing polygamy or bestial marriage prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage?



How does allowing public nudity or prostitution prohibit anyone from wearing clothes or not using prostitutes?



How does legalising heroin prohibit anyone from being sober?


I don't know....how does it?

[/quote]



Yet again you show how out of step you are with normality.



But for you it's just your way of trying to be different

[/quote]



You failed to answer his question on how does legalizing heroin prohibit anyone from being sober. How does it really?

[/quote]



I think the point is, gary, who is clueless about almost everything, seems to think that he can justify a ban on same sex marriage by pointing to bans of other things.



But he's wrong.



The end.
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[quote name='gary' timestamp='1329076577' post='382603']

[quote name='Nwolfe35' timestamp='1329076216' post='382601']

[quote name='gary' timestamp='1329073749' post='382588']

[quote name='Nwolfe35' timestamp='1329064254' post='382550']

And how does allowing same sex couples to marry prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage. That's like saying we need to honor WWII vets therefore we shouldn't honor vets of any other wars.


How does allowing polygamy or bestial marriage prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage?



How does allowing public nudity or prostitution prohibit anyone from wearing clothes or not using prostitutes?



How does legalising heroin prohibit anyone from being sober?


I don't know....how does it?

[/quote]



Yet again you show how out of step you are with normality.



But for you it's just your way of trying to be different

[/quote]



You failed to answer his question on How does it really?

[/quote]



I think the point is, gary, who is clueless about almost everything, seems to think that he can justify a ban on same sex marriage by pointing to bans of other things.



But he's wrong.



The end.

[/quote]



I thought Gary was an expert on how does legalizing heroin prohibit anyone from being sober. He must have tried it himself with slumbering results.
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And how does allowing same sex couples to marry prohibit anyone from "honoring" heterosexual marriage. That's like saying we need to honor WWII vets therefore we shouldn't honor vets of any other wars.


Sorry you missed the sarcasm....
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There was a good radio discussion about Prop 8 and the more general marriage equality issue today with David Boies and Ted Olson:

http://www.wnyc.org/...-v-gore-prop-8/



Olson has been in North Carolina recently campaigning against their proposed constitutional ban on same sex marriage.
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There was a good radio discussion about Prop 8 and the more general marriage equality issue today with David Boies and Ted Olson:

http://www.wnyc.org/...-v-gore-prop-8/



Olson has been in North Carolina recently campaigning against their proposed constitutional ban on same sex marriage.


The "general marriage equality issue"?



You mean they discussed polygamy, consanguineous, child and bestial marriage?



Or was it just about redefining marriage for homosexuals?
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