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Old January 15th, 2016, 01:25 PM   #11
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... These men need to get life sentences and then put to death from republcian budget cuts.

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Old January 15th, 2016, 01:26 PM   #12
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And what the fuck does "Go back to Islam" even mean? Islam is not a country or physical location but rather a religion.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 01:27 PM   #13
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Zimmerman did not use 'stand your ground' as his defense.
In what fucking universe ?? He absolutely used self defense, of which SYG is a part of, for shooting Martin.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 01:41 PM   #14
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Why in the fuck would a person choose to kill an unarmed man instead of simply driving off? I don't get that.
Because he's an idiot.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 01:52 PM   #15
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Nothing about stand your ground makes sense. These men need to get life sentences and then put to death from republcian budget cuts.

Lemme splain it to ya.

In some states, when faced with an intruder, even if they are armed, you are REQUIRED BY LAW, to attempt to flee, run away, escape, EVEN FROM YOUR OWN HOME.

ONLY if there is NO possible escape are you then allowed to defend yourself. Especially if you use deadly force (not just firearms) Even if you kill them with your bare hands, you have to show there was no chance of getting away.

SYG simply means that you are not "legally" required to attempt an escape before using force. It doesn't, or at least shouldn't, give you free reign to go out and pick a fight, then pull a gun when you realize you're loosing the fight you started.

I don't understand why this guy wasn't charged. I suspect it has a lot to do with the dead guy's race and religion. I'm willing to bet, had the other driver been white there would have been charges.

Of course there's still a civil suit and the feds might take a look at it.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 01:53 PM   #16
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In what fucking universe ?? He absolutely used self defense, of which SYG is a part of, for shooting Martin.

Stand your ground is a specific statute, and Zimmerman did not use 'stand your ground' as part of his defense.

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... as The New York Times explained last month, "Florida's Stand Your Ground law...has not been invoked in this case." The only context in which "stand your ground" was mentioned during the trial was as part of the prosecution's attempt to undermine Zimmerman's credibility by arguing that he lied when he told Fox News host Sean Hannity that he had not heard of the law until after the shooting. During his rebuttal on Friday, prosecutor John Guy declared, "This case is not about standing your ground."
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Not to long ago, A Mexican tried the "stand your ground" defense when he shot and killed his White neighbor. He's now serving a term for 2nd degree murder.
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I'm all for stand your ground. I like living in a state that has it. However, this is just wrong. I have the same issue here I had with Zimmerman. You should NOT be able to claim stand your ground when YOU initiate the conflict !! You get in someone's face, and it escalates into violence, you have to accept that you started the conflict. And you damned sure don't get to pull a weapon and kill someone, then claim self defense when you realize you're about to lose the fight you started !!
You are 1000% correct, "stand your ground" is not a license to murder and that is exactly what happened in the Zimmerman / Martin case. If one were to put themselves in Martin's shoes and were walking in the night being followed by someone, there are only two conclusions to be had, either the guy following me was a pervert or someone looking for trouble. Martin could have ran away, but being the typical street wise teenage boy, running away is not an option, if it would have been me, I would have approached the guy and asked why he was following me. I suspect that is what happened and Zimmerman, trying to be the man he's not, probably tried to break bad on the kid and the kid struck back.
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people die, adding in political talking points doesn't make it any more or less of a tragedy.
Of course it was a tragedy. The question is should it have been considered a crime.
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Why in the fuck would a person choose to kill an unarmed man instead of simply driving off? I don't get that.
He thought he was a cop?
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