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Old April 7th, 2016, 01:50 PM   #81
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So now your agree with kbear? So, what was all your gibberish about? Scumbag dead, end of story.
What on earth are you talking about?
What kbear and have been talking about is she made a statement implying that "the left" wanted to impose firearm controls that would have left that family unable to defend themselves and I asked, the apparently confrontational question, that she name the laws she referred to, either existing or proposed.

Read the damned exchanges between us if you wish to take part.
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Old April 7th, 2016, 01:53 PM   #82
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True story: Friend of mine in Californian was asleep. At about 2:am, he hears a sound downstairs. He grabs his 22cal. and heads downstairs. An intruder rushes at him with a butcher knife. My friend shoots him in the legs. Cops come. The cops arrest my friend along with the scumbag, and impound his gun. My friend goes to Court. He receives a one-year suspended sentence, and serves two years probation plus, he is force to pay the medical cost for the scumbag. At the time of my friends arrest the cops told him he should have killed the guy and saved himself a lot of trouble. I now live by that rule. Kill the scumbag!
Smells like bullshit to me.
What were the specific charges? What crime was he convicted of?
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Old April 7th, 2016, 05:00 PM   #83
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It is from 3 studies, (5 year periods each) one by University of Chicago School of Law, UCLA and FLA State.

There data was collected from the FBI uniform Crime Reports and Justice department crime reports...

What is amazing Armed citizens stop these crimes and very rarely are they forced to kill the person to prevent the crime, Many times they just run off, Give up, or wounded.
Do you have a link to these studies?
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Old April 7th, 2016, 06:21 PM   #84
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Smells like bullshit to me.
What were the specific charges? What crime was he convicted of?
What you do, or don't believe is up to you. It was 20-years ago and I don't recall the particulars.
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Old April 7th, 2016, 06:28 PM   #85
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What you do, or don't believe is up to you. It was 20-years ago and I don't recall the particulars.
Twenty years ago. Hell man, you can't even blame it on Obama!
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Old April 7th, 2016, 08:26 PM   #86
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What on earth are you talking about?
What kbear and have been talking about is she made a statement implying that "the left" wanted to impose firearm controls that would have left that family unable to defend themselves and I asked, the apparently confrontational question, that she name the laws she referred to, either existing or proposed.

Read the damned exchanges between us if you wish to take part.
She was implying the Left wanted to put further restrictions on guns. The fact that they do is not in doubt. So far, citizens have been able to stop the Left from further attacks on the 2nd Amendment. One of the controversial plans is to ban gun ownership for those who may have been involved in even minor cases of domestic disturbance. Another strategy is to prohibit the mentally ill from owning firearms, but again the devil is in the definitions of mentally ill.
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Twenty years ago. Hell man, you can't even blame it on Obama!
I wasn't trying to. Just pointing out the lengths the government will go to, to stop you from protecting yourself with a gun. Like I said, the police told my friend he should have killed the guy.
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Do you have a link to these studies?
I have posted them for you several times did you not read them then?
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head shots are best.I thought Americans didn't like .22,Thought you guys regarded them as a toy.I like them, ammo is cheap, the bang and recoil is half of a 38 as far as I am concerned.
Great for execution, not good for self defense.
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I have posted them for you several times did you not read them then?
Actually yes, and as I suspected those studies are Bullshit.
The 2.5 million number, if you go into it, also gives you 135,000 incidents per year where the assailant is killed or wounded. Do you see 135,000 dead and wounded per year in this country?

The number that the data supports is closer to 108,000 defensive uses.
1/25th of your number.
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