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Old October 25th, 2017, 08:43 AM   #91
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once again he posted Facts accurate Facts, accurate facts ARE ALWAYS Non-Partisan.
PROVE they are facts. The Kleck & Gertz study so often used as a "source" is about 25 years old and there are just as many, if not more, that dispute it's accuracy as there are that support it. Even Kleck & gerta say their figures as estimates, so don't go calling them facts.
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PROVE they are facts. The Kleck & Gertz study so often used as a "source" is about 25 years old and there are just as many, if not more, that dispute it's accuracy as there are that support it. Even Kleck & gerta say their figures as estimates, so don't go calling them facts.
Because the Kleck and Gertz was CONFIRMED BY studies done by Florida State, UCLA .

Kleck and Gertz original premise was MORE GUNS MORE CRIME. their Data proved the opposite
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Old October 25th, 2017, 09:01 AM   #93
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PROVE they are facts. The Kleck & Gertz study so often used as a "source" is about 25 years old and there are just as many, if not more, that dispute it's accuracy as there are that support it. Even Kleck & gerta say their figures as estimates, so don't go calling them facts.
You just confused TNV with facts again.
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Old October 25th, 2017, 09:05 AM   #94
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Because the Kleck and Gertz was CONFIRMED BY studies done by Florida State, UCLA .

Kleck and Gertz original premise was MORE GUNS MORE CRIME. their Data proved the opposite
Bullshit.
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Your mind is not the law. Due process has everything to do with ones right. The people have a right to keep and bear arms. It is that simple. In your mind indeed.

Furthermore, were not just talking about mentally ill. A person should be adjudged mentally ill first. This notion that some states have, that a relative or close friend can petition the court, in order to have someones firearms removed. Without notifying the accused, without allowing the accused defense or representation is as wrong as civil forfeiture. If you want to pass a law like that, then allow that person to be able to defend themselves in a court of law. Its that simple. Its also why using no fly-lists is wrong to deny a Constitutional right as well.
He can defend himself in court and I dam well want those guns out of his hands if he is mentally ill. Your making up definitions of what the constitution means is a laugh, tell you what, all these things that go against you in the courts and are supported by the court of course in our country make it so, Got a argument about this , take it to court, I'm not interested at all in your opinion. Especially since it is so self serving and out there in the clouds.
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Old October 25th, 2017, 09:51 AM   #96
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Dumping the 2nd would only effect the National Guard as the 2nd merely protects the right for the people to keep and bear arms. You would have to look at the 1689 EBoR to try to deny the individual the right to own a weapon. The next thing you would have to deal with is a persons absolute right to self defense.

Your knowledge of the US Constitution is rather lacking for anything substantive. The rest of your diatribe is just that.

Why would you link to tanks for sale outside the US? Do you know what it would take to import one? The tanks gun must be sealed and rendered non-usable. So basically it is something simply for looks at that point.

Fighter jets and helicopters are more deadly than tanks, they are sold all the time in the US, yet they have no ordinance available to them. gofigure
Tanks from over sea do not have to be sealed and right on the same page you can buy shells that go in those tanks. There is multiple ways to buy them, one is being a collector. You want to drive and shoot a tank ,https://www.drivetanks.com/ You want help buying one ,this company buys them for people all the time. https://culmen.com/ This is the one I would buy, looks like fun , set up a car in your back yard and have at it https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/ope...sale-armslist/
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Since you seem to be mentally ill, how did you obtain that .45 you like so much just a couple years ago? Based on your inane ramblings, you should have that .45 taken away.

At 600 rounds a minute the weapon would melt. Bump stocks do not allow a weapon to shoot 600 rounds a minute, a fully automatic AR-15 military grade can only get out 400 rounds per minute. At best a bump stock would allow a couple to a few hundred rounds per minute in a spray pattern. The weapon even then if fired consecutively would heat up and jam. The shooter may have gotten about 10 to 15 round bursts out and would have had to drop and reload a magazine after each 30 rounds.
This is what a right wing bubba expert is all about , here's a bumpstock putting out 800 rpm. "https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Bump-Stock-Application/5-2039423/&page=2" He says 600 RPM would melt the stock even though gov issued shoots 400. Why does that look like nonsense to me.
Here's a guy shooting 900 RPM Nice Video https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...92D8&FORM=VIRE
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Kleck and Gertz Goofballs. I like the one that says 2.5 million defensive guns usage a year, Pushing it as far as you can will get you to 720 a year , that's pushing it. So much of these gun Bubba's sources are totally bogus, that it's a laugh, can you imagine anyone thinking it is 2.5 million a year.
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