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Old October 23rd, 2017, 03:08 PM   #31
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Like voting?

Your post proves exactly what I was saying.
Only after a Las Vegas shooter kills dozens of people and convicted do some people think that THEN he can be restricted.
Yes, you are correct. After being convicted or as a condition of a bond after being charged. I certainly agree with that. Because without that principle in our nation, then our nation has truly slid down the proverbial tubes.
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 07:06 PM   #33
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The Second Amendment is an archaic piece of poorly written crap, perhaps suitable for conditions in some frontier colonies two hundred and forty years ago, but hopelessly and insanely unrealistic today. It is currently grievously misinterpreted to ignore the part about "well regulated militias".

Post #2, and the article it links to, explains the gun-nuts misplaced paranoia very well.

The more guns there are in any country or state, the higher the murder and suicide rates become in comparison to places with less guns. Guns make people less safe, not more, and families with guns in the house are the least safe and the most likely to die from their own guns in family arguments or accidents compared to families without any guns. The scientific studies and the statistics they yield are quite clear.
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 07:16 PM   #34
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The Second Amendment is an archaic piece of poorly written crap, perhaps suitable for conditions in some frontier colonies two hundred and forty years ago, but hopelessly and insanely unrealistic today. It is currently grievously misinterpreted to ignore the part about "well regulated militias".

Post #2, and the article it links to, explains the gun-nuts misplaced paranoia very well.

The more guns there are in any country or state, the higher the murder and suicide rates become in comparison to places with less guns. Guns make people less safe, not more, and families with guns in the house are the least safe and the most likely to die from their own guns in family arguments or accidents compared to families without any guns. The scientific studies and the statistics they yield are quite clear.
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Murder Rates By Country

Today, the world has become less safe than ever before. Increasing violence constantly threatens our well-being, with homicide being one of the scariest threats. The highest murder rates in the world can be found in Latin America and Africa.
Honduras tops the list with 84.6 murders per every 100,000 people yearly. Stated differently, this is nearly 1 out of every 1,000 people killed. San Pedro Sula, in the northwest of the country, is the most dangerous city with a homicide rate of 137.5 per 100,000. Consequently, Honduras also has the highest incidence of firearm-related deaths in the world.
El Salvador is next on the list. Here, the murder rate is 64.2 per 100,000 population annually. Estimates indicate that approximately 60% of these murders are due to gang activity. This country is still recovering from a civil war that lasted from 1979 until 1992.
The third highest murder rate is found in Venezuela. This country loses 62 people per 100,000 each year to homicide. Caracas, the capital, is the center for all of this violence. In fact, it is considered the second most murderous city in the world. With increasing political turmoil, this number has been increasing.



Lesotho, the first country outside of Latin America, is number 4 on the list. This African nation has a homicide rate of 38 per 100,000. Maseru, the capital of the country, is the 6th most murderous city in the world. Some people have contributed this to high unemployment and poverty rates.
Jamaica takes the 5th place for high murder rates. Murders here reach 36.1 per 100,000 population. Some of the most dangerous cities in this country are Kingston, Montego Bay, and Spanish Town. Jamaica also has the 5th highest firearm-related death rate in the world.
Factors Promoting High Murder Rates

Being able to identify the highest murder rates is the first step toward solving the problem. The next is to understand what factors lead to violent crimes, like homicide. The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) has conducted a study to identify the prominent factors that seem to result in high murder rates. Countries with the widest gaps between rich and poor are 4 times more likely to experience violent crimes than other countries. These inequitable societies are found most often in developing countries, where high poverty lacking infrastructure are commonplace. In fact, poverty and crime go hand in hand; crime drives away businesses and investors, reducing available human capital, and creating an insecure environment which in turn, leads to more poverty. Organized crime, like gangs and drug trafficking, also contribute to high murder rates. This is particularly true in countries like Jamaica, Honduras, and El Salvador. Organized crime is also more likely to be participated in by young males who, consequently, are also more likely to be a victim of murder. Drug and alcohol use are also related to high murder and poverty rates. Intoxication increases the risk of being involved (either as the guilty party or the victim) in a murder.
Countries that are experiencing political turmoil and violent conflict are also more likely to experience high murder rates. This is the case with El Salvador, which is still recovering from its civil war. When internal conflict is ongoing or not completely resolved, the violence is often seen in the form of homicide.


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Yes, you are correct. After being convicted or as a condition of a bond after being charged. I certainly agree with that. Because without that principle in our nation, then our nation has truly slid down the proverbial tubes.
But in the case of voting rights, are you okay with them being denied without conviction?
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Then, you'll have no problem siting one of those interpretations, will you?
What does that even mean, how can I sight your interpretation of the constitution. Oh well
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So therefore your implication is there is not enough regulation.
KIss off on your bullshit implication, A implication is in the eyes of the beholder and your being that person ,makes what you say funny, considering it's from the world of distortions and lies. But it was funny.
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The Second Amendment is an archaic piece of poorly written crap, perhaps suitable for conditions in some frontier colonies two hundred and forty years ago, but hopelessly and insanely unrealistic today. It is currently grievously misinterpreted to ignore the part about "well regulated militias".

Post #2, and the article it links to, explains the gun-nuts misplaced paranoia very well.

The more guns there are in any country or state, the higher the murder and suicide rates become in comparison to places with less guns. Guns make people less safe, not more, and families with guns in the house are the least safe and the most likely to die from their own guns in family arguments or accidents compared to families without any guns. The scientific studies and the statistics they yield are quite clear.
Like I said the 2nd doesn't bother me but you have nothing to worry about these wack job bubbas, fighting every regulation, whether it is a necessary regulation or not. It Will force a rewriting the 2nd. (Actually writing a amendment to nullify the 2nd)They by far are the biggest threat to the second amendment. What I find the funniest is these bubbas marching and waving the flag for the 2nd while they shit on the 1st. That has me rolling on the floor daily.
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What does that even mean, how can I sight your interpretation of the constitution. Oh well
Just as I thought...LOL...
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 07:36 PM   #40
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Like I said the 2nd doesn't bother me but you have nothing to worry about these wack job bubbas, fighting every regulation, whether it is a necessary regulation or not. It Will force a rewriting the 2nd. (Actually writing a amendment to nullify the 2nd)They by far are the biggest threat to the second amendment. What I find the funniest is these bubbas marching and waving the flag for the 2nd while they shit on the 1st. That has me rolling on the floor daily.
Have you given thought to the 2nd supporting the 1st? Scrap the 2nd, and the 1st is soon to fallow.
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