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Old November 9th, 2017, 06:24 PM   #101
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“Politicians pose no danger to the public if used correctly,” said the NRA’s LaPierre, who claims to have over two hundred politicians in his personal collection.

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Old November 9th, 2017, 06:27 PM   #102
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Hollyweird,

If you weren't so repulsive, you'd almost be entertaining. You pretend to be asking questions, but your real motivation is to open the door for the board trolls. Your questions aren't honest questions. You know it; I know it; so do the other posters.

So, rather than dodge, duck and try to deflect, let me ask you straight up: Do you believe in God? If not why would you inquire of others if not only to provide an opportunity for trolls to hijack the thread? Do you think you can be converted?

As you get older, do you start thinking, what if I'm wrong? What if there really is a heaven and I'm blowing a chance to spend eternity with loved ones? How much does honest investigation cost?

So, either you're the man opening the door for trolls and you've been quite good at getting whizzing contests going OR your age has you thinking down deep inside that maybe you don't have all the answers. So, do you believe in God?

It is not required to believe in God in order to believe in natural, inherent, unalienable, absolute Rights. It helps, but the commitment is a much better proposition than having majorities decide your entire life.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, personal insults.

Let's see those quotes where i actually said any such thing.

My question sure as hell was a question. YOU claimed I made specific statements, i claim I did not and asked to to show proof where i did as you say.

Now, why on earth would you expect ME to answer YOUR question while to ignore MINE? Explain that.

You're all hat and no cattle, I hear the thunder but don't see any lightening, etc. etc. etc.
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Old November 9th, 2017, 06:37 PM   #103
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, personal insults.

Let's see those quotes where i actually said any such thing.

My question sure as hell was a question. YOU claimed I made specific statements, i claim I did not and asked to to show proof where i did as you say.

Now, why on earth would you expect ME to answer YOUR question while to ignore MINE? Explain that.

You're all hat and no cattle, I hear the thunder but don't see any lightening, etc. etc. etc.
Nobody expects you to actually answer their questions, ever.
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Old November 9th, 2017, 06:39 PM   #104
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Nobody expects you to actually answer their questions, ever.
Oh now, that's not even good tap dancing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, personal insults.

Let's see those quotes where i actually said any such thing.

My question sure as hell was a question. YOU claimed I made specific statements, i claim I did not and asked to to show proof where i did as you say.

Now, why on earth would you expect ME to answer YOUR question while to ignore MINE? Explain that.

You're all hat and no cattle, I hear the thunder but don't see any lightening, etc. etc. etc.
A personal observation is not an insult. I'm only telling the truth. I've not made any statements, no allegations, etc. So, I asked you first, where's the beef?

There are several people asking questions of you. I didn't accuse you of making any comments. Fact is, if you READ what I wrote, you don't incriminate yourself; you open the door for professional trolls.
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Who's interpretation of God's will and or directions?
Was our Constitution written by Priests and ministers or lawyers and large land owners?
Do we sit trained lawyers on the Supreme Court or priests and ministers?
You spout nonsense.
The Bible's interpretation,
It was asked who gave the inherent right I said God (by being Creator)
who else could give inherent rights?
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Old November 10th, 2017, 05:56 AM   #108
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The Bible's interpretation,
It was asked who gave the inherent right I said God (by being Creator)
who else could give inherent rights?
As I see it, the atheists are perplexed and cannot afford to be honest on this topic.

In order to avoid God, they claim that your Rights are a "social construct"...it's all in your mind. That being the case, all questions of right and wrong are a "social construct." That being the their argument, the only power that matters is the power of the majority.

When that fails them, they have to rely on the laws of this country. The laws of this country were based upon Christian principles. So, they will take the next detour. Oh, they will claim that the founders weren't Christian and / or they were Masons. So, we have to cover that deflection.

The Illuminati was not even formed until 1776. By that time America had already found its bearings and knew where they wanted to go relative to the formation of our Republic. Furthermore, the first time I've been able to find where the Masons figured out they'd been had was in 1794. Here is what one of their own had to say:

"It is they who have undermined the foundations of the Order to the point of complete overthrow; it is by them that all humanity has been poisoned and led astray for several generations…They began by casting odium on religion…Their masters had nothing less in view than the thrones of the earth, and the governments of the nations was to be directed by their nocturnal clubs…the misuse of our order…has produced all the political and moral troubles with which the world is filled today…we must from this moment dissolve the whole Order”
Duke of Brunswick, Grand Master of German Freemasonry, 1794

Freemasonry infiltrated by the illuminati at the highest level, page 1

"The purpose of the Illuminati was to to oppose superstition, obscurantism, religious influence over public life, and abuses of state power...."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

People like George Washington were busy fighting a war and founding a Republic so, being realistic, how much did he really know about what was going on within the Masons? How many of the stories did he believe? Ditto for the other founders. OTOH, Patrick Henry did say he "smelled a rat."

Still, at the end of the day, America was founded on this presupposition that we have God given, unalienable, natural, absolute, inherent Rights. The Declaration of Independence is the Declaratory Charter of our Rights according to the author of the Declaration. Of this the United States Supreme Court ruled:

"...it is always safe to read the letter of the Constitution in the spirit of the Declaration of Independence. No duty rests more imperatively upon the courts than the enforcement of those constitutional provisions intended to secure that equality of rights which is the foundation of free government."

The foundation of free government is that you have those God given, unalienable, natural, absolute, inherent Rights. No majority can deprive you of those Rights. John Adams, the only Federalist ever elected as president said:

"You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe."

Federalists would have been left of the political spectrum at the time. But, even they acknowledged inherent Rights. Having covered all the obvious deflections, the current crop of Federalists, the liberals, atheists, non-believers, Democrats, etc. like to deny you your Rights, but they cannot afford to acknowledge their real motivation. They cannot afford the truth, but America was founded on the presupposition that your Rights come from a Creator and no majority can over-rule the Rights of Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

Our earliest Courts (including the United States Supreme Court) have ruled that the Right to keep and bear Arms is not a right granted by the Constitution. Yet it exists. Courts have ruled the Right is absolute. The Right to keep and bear Arms is an extension of your Right to Life. Virtually every founder understood this and it is no less a reality today than it was when the Constitution was ratified.
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You start your post with an outright lie.

The number of mass shootings is directly proportional to gun ownership. The more guns the more people get shot.
That's true.
The number of shootings in America have been steadily declining for decades as the number of firearms and the number of people carrying firearms has increased dramatically.
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The number of shootings in America have been steadily declining for decades as the number of firearms and the number of people carrying firearms has increased dramatically.
He said "mass shootings" and NOT "shootings."
There IS a difference.
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