Political Forums  

Go Back   Defending The Truth Political Forum > Political Issues > Gun Control

Gun Control Gun Control Forum - For topics and discussions about gun laws, gun policies, and gun rights


Thanks Tree28Thanks
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old November 30th, 2017, 03:44 PM   #31
Senior Member
 
Hollywood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Memphis, Tn.
Posts: 21,871
Quote:
Originally Posted by TreeDoc View Post
The military used the AR-15 early on, it is now called the CAR-15. The Military also uses the M16 and M-4, i.e. their newer versions. The AR-15 is now obsolete, yet the CAR-15 was still in use while I was in the Army during the late 80's through the 90's.

The AR-15 moniker is what is now used on the civilian side for marketing for a semi-automatic sport rifle. The M-16 and even the M-4 and the AR-15 are all almost identical in appearance. That is why I asked Carla to define what she called an assault weapon.
WAY early, in the early to mid 60's and it was a total failure when used in combat in Vietnam. The M-16 was the replacement for the M-15, which is what it was called back then.
Yes, I know the military uses later versions of the M-16 and M-4. I mentioned both in my previous post.
In basic appearance perhaps. The critical difference in the M-16 and M-4 is that the M-4 has a much shorter barrel, only 14" I think, whereas the M-16 has a 20" barrel and gets much better ballistics from the military 5.56 mm round.
Hollywood is offline  
Old November 30th, 2017, 03:48 PM   #32
Senior Member
 
Hollywood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Memphis, Tn.
Posts: 21,871
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quigley View Post
It's a made up term, you use an AR-15, I'll use a 16 or a 47 We'll see who comes out of it. It's best that people like you who have never actually had to fire one at an enemy just keep their mouths shut.
Lighten up Francis.
Hollywood is offline  
Old November 30th, 2017, 03:51 PM   #33
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: In a House
Posts: 224
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
WAY early, in the early to mid 60's and it was a total failure when used in combat in Vietnam. The M-16 was the replacement for the M-15, which is what it was called back then.
Yes, I know the military uses later versions of the M-16 and M-4. I mentioned both in my previous post.
In basic appearance perhaps. The critical difference in the M-16 and M-4 is that the M-4 has a much shorter barrel, only 14" I think, whereas the M-16 has a 20" barrel and gets much better ballistics from the military 5.56 mm round.
Correct, Colt came out with the CAR-15 and they were sold to the military into the 70's, which is what I carried in the Army as a Combat Engineer in the 80's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAR-15

Last edited by TreeDoc; November 30th, 2017 at 03:59 PM.
TreeDoc is offline  
Old November 30th, 2017, 03:54 PM   #34
Senior Member
 
Neil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 406
Quote:
Originally Posted by TreeDoc View Post
What violation of the constitution?

I fear your interpretation of the 2A doesn't fall in line with actual law as has been opined on for more then 200 years (centuries). We can go back as far as 1689 and the English Bill of Rights that grants you the right to own a weapon as allowed by law. So now we've gone back almost 320 years (again centuries).
No not we, you have gone back 320 years. I'm not English. I'm a US Citizen & the US declared and gained independence from the British Empire. The story in the OP is about something that happened in the US, not England. I'm talking about the US Constitution.
Neil is offline  
Old November 30th, 2017, 03:57 PM   #35
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: In a House
Posts: 224
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil View Post
No not we, you have gone back 320 years. I'm not English. I'm a US Citizen & the US declared and gained independence from the British Empire. The story in the OP is about something that happened in the US, not England. I'm talking about the US Constitution.
You don't have to be English, our laws stem from English Common Law. :SHRUG:
TreeDoc is offline  
Old November 30th, 2017, 04:02 PM   #36
Senior Member
 
Neil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 406
Quote:
Originally Posted by TreeDoc View Post
You don't have to be English, our laws stem from English Common Law. :SHRUG:
That doesn't change anything.
Neil is offline  
Old November 30th, 2017, 04:03 PM   #37
Senior Member
 
skews13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: nirvana
Posts: 9,117
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quigley View Post
It's a made up term, you use an AR-15, I'll use a 16 or a 47 We'll see who comes out of it. It's best that people like you who have never actually had to fire one at an enemy just keep their mouths shut.
It's best that people like you obey the laws and not get caught with a gun in the wrong place and find yourself doing felony time and losing your gun rights.

And you should probably take your own advice, and keep your mouth shut after you're read your rights.
skews13 is offline  
Old November 30th, 2017, 04:06 PM   #38
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: In a House
Posts: 224
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil View Post
That doesn't change anything.
It explains everything. Where do you think your right to own a weapon comes from?
TreeDoc is offline  
Old November 30th, 2017, 04:09 PM   #39
Political Agnostic
 
Quigley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 1,855
Quote:
Originally Posted by skews13 View Post
It's best that people like you obey the laws and not get caught with a gun in the wrong place and find yourself doing felony time and losing your gun rights.

And you should probably take your own advice, and keep your mouth shut after you're read your rights.
(smile) Ainchu jus all tough and shit? Fact is you have no idea what you are talking about, but then you rarely do. Nobody is coming for my guns, no Gov entity. That hurts your feelers doesn't it.
Thanks from Sabcat
Quigley is offline  
Old November 30th, 2017, 04:11 PM   #40
Political Agnostic
 
Quigley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 1,855
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
Lighten up Francis.
Naaaa, a spade is a spade. He's a coward and an armchair warrior. I have no use for wannabe's.
Quigley is offline  
Reply

  Defending The Truth Political Forum > Political Issues > Gun Control

Tags
case, hear, refuses, scotus



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Supreme Court Refuses To Hear Contraception Case skews13 Current Events 4 June 28th, 2016 12:25 PM
SCOTUS To Hear ex-Goverenor McDonnell Appeal excalibur Current Events 0 January 15th, 2016 06:40 PM
S C To Hear Abortion Case That Could Erode Roe v. Wade RNG Current Events 10 November 13th, 2015 03:08 PM
Court to hear protests at soldiers' funerals case CNN Current Events 84 March 9th, 2010 06:29 AM
SCOTUS refuses to hear gay book case tristanrobin Gay and Lesbian Rights 16 October 17th, 2008 02:31 AM


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed



Copyright © 2005-2013 Defending The Truth. All rights reserved.